Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750747AbVKMBLV (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:11:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750748AbVKMBLV (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:11:21 -0500 Received: from ns1.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:48045 "EHLO mx1.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750747AbVKMBLV (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:11:21 -0500 To: Mark Lord Cc: Jeff Garzik , Jan Beulich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/39] NLKD - Novell Linux Kernel Debugger References: <43720DAE.76F0.0078.0@novell.com> <43722AFC.4040709@pobox.com> <1131558785.6540.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43735DCA.7060107@rtr.ca> From: Andi Kleen Date: 13 Nov 2005 02:11:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <43735DCA.7060107@rtr.ca> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 885 Lines: 17 Mark Lord writes: > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > I think it is clearly the case that the design is wrong. The existance > > of kgdb shows how putting the complex logic remotely on another system > > is not only a lot cleaner and simpler but can also provide more > > functionality and higher reliability. > > Unless the target machine is modern (2005+ era) and has no serial ports, > nor any way to add them other than via the USB stack. Firewire looks most promising actually right now, at least for Desktop/Laptop type systems. And servers still have serial ports right now, either in hardware or simulated in some way. -Andi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/