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I prefer pidfd_*. > > > > > > Ok. We're each allowed our opinion. > > > > > > > It's tied to the api, transparent for userspace, and disambiguates it > > > > from process_vm_{read,write}v that both take a pid_t. > > > > > > Speaking of process_vm_readv and process_vm_writev: both have a > > > currently-unused flags argument. Both should grow a flag that tells > > > them to interpret the pid argument as a pidfd. Or do you support > > > adding pidfd_vm_readv and pidfd_vm_writev system calls? If not, why > > > should process_madvise be called pidfd_madvise while process_vm_readv > > > isn't called pidfd_vm_readv? > > > > Actually, you should then do the same with process_madvise() and give it > > a flag for that too if that's not too crazy. > > I don't know what you mean. My gut feeling is that for the sake of > consistency, process_madvise, process_vm_readv, and process_vm_writev > should all accept a first argument interpreted as either a numeric PID > or a pidfd depending on a flag --- ideally the same flag. Is that what > you have in mind? Yes. For the sake of consistency they should probably all default to interpret as pid and if say PROCESS_{VM_}PIDFD is passed as flag interpret as pidfd.