Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030417AbVKPRAF (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030414AbVKPRAF (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:05 -0500 Received: from mail.kroah.org ([69.55.234.183]:58765 "EHLO perch.kroah.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030417AbVKPRAE (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:00:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:44:29 -0800 From: Greg KH To: "Gross, Mark" Cc: Pavel Machek , Dave Jones , kernel list , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux-pm mailing list Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp Message-ID: <20051116164429.GA5630@kroah.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1700 Lines: 37 On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 08:10:19AM -0800, Gross, Mark wrote: > I worry that this is just adding more thrash to a historically unstable > implementation. How long do we users have to wait for a swsusp > implementation where we don't have to worry about breaking from one > kernel release to the next? Never, you are hereby consigned to always have a broken swsusp implementation on your machines. There, feel better? Or perhaps you could join in and help with the current effort to make things better... > I agree with this post http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/15/125 and note that > making too large of a change thrashes the users a lot and if it doesn't > solve a real problem or enable something critical, why make the changes? Ok, so you are happy with what we currently have in the kernel tree today? Great, use that, I know it works for me and I'm happy with it... Please, everyone realize that Nigel's code is not going to be merged into mainline as it is today. He knows it, and everyone else involved knows it. Nigel also knows the proper procedure for getting his changes into mainline, if he so desires, as we all sat in a room last July and discussed this (lwn.net has a summary somewhere about it too...) So, here's Pavel trying to make things better and people are complaining about it. Argue that the technical points are invalid (like Dave did.) But don't just sit around and kvetch, that doesn't help out anyone. thanks, greg k-h - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/