Received: by 2002:a25:ab43:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id u61csp6833927ybi; Wed, 29 May 2019 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxdqrz5Wkk1A1GhRrxi8rG3QQCHWab8E0S1IxPe4LJbXBcDEVgeOxdfbhn17Lh4wEGYRtZa X-Received: by 2002:a62:1bcc:: with SMTP id b195mr98152075pfb.75.1559163892283; Wed, 29 May 2019 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1559163892; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=PU7VqmCWY7/Uw/DM4IoiIs5F6pk5qNdwL2D/Zq+XDxBI/PUyMWnv0rAlhRKiaqbm4T A+Rpw/Oli6JN26BKyhFxb2eEjC8Rm5QU1/syWwdwGS2LUfo0UkAp6SMDoszIJ73JnF2z oqoF3JeMdTVCJ+98kRB2T61iWr6/98wQ1ISEyJxgxOjYpRkA2vtApKcSGV2GL3FMSREr c3tGEwTMVRpZVVLEpUULe6MG7TTJtjXJqFlrzXB94vjAEMVWpC5aUhE4buceBnZSFa5W YiDp5UKy17LfxLCZQ2xbrYJ7I6SHD2IeIuh9tSPO3iIccIrQkrU3zOgrMMMgr/TI7hgE i1VQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:message-id:date:content-id:mime-version :subject:cc:to:references:in-reply-to:from:organization; bh=ZX0ggIgyfulXBSayuU3KMYVSW9DmaqLUkKtn4p90NBI=; b=yQiFEt8PVlzEInenpDqybHC8xEpwxJqMipm8EXZ5LIRHNtB2IHePR2bG8SsL3z1Is7 Kn36rN2MKUkLaJUBDJKkJYtJ/GeD2P8rVCBVI3VeboQixsfjEVadFVZ/QlQdLSP8Lwza rySKYkxQh6s4nWRKMxXOJDtTGehjHKfQXWNaMJgooYxoeh8V0Ty1DztBsdZ3ze6T7evQ Y+8Pb9B9pwcFFf/Dff7AqNqq6IVkv1sKhBjjlbaz9d3wu9/iKjDZ3ELqDqbAAjAeYGYF EJ0Uj+5Xp4/hef1d5XM9W/8ce8+GtS7uGkBFLbnu/9lzDY0u8Qmx89VtpqKOQo9dON0W dzag== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=redhat.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w4si753851plp.223.2019.05.29.14.04.36; Wed, 29 May 2019 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=redhat.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726716AbfE2VDF (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 29 May 2019 17:03:05 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:38918 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726411AbfE2VDE (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 May 2019 17:03:04 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 419FD308213F; Wed, 29 May 2019 21:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from warthog.procyon.org.uk (ovpn-120-173.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.120.173]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC755DD95; Wed, 29 May 2019 21:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Red Hat UK Ltd. Registered Address: Red Hat UK Ltd, Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SI4 1TE, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: References: <20190528162603.GA24097@kroah.com> <155905930702.7587.7100265859075976147.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <155905931502.7587.11705449537368497489.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <4031.1559064620@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <20190528231218.GA28384@kroah.com> <31936.1559146000@warthog.procyon.org.uk> To: Jann Horn Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Greg KH , Al Viro , raven@themaw.net, linux-fsdevel , Linux API , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module , kernel list , Kees Cook , Kernel Hardening Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] General notification queue with user mmap()'able ring buffer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <16192.1559163763.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 22:02:43 +0100 Message-ID: <16193.1559163763@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.14 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.42]); Wed, 29 May 2019 21:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jann Horn wrote: > Does this mean that refcount_read() isn't sufficient for what you want > to do with tracing (because for some reason you actually need to know > the values atomically at the time of increment/decrement)? Correct. There's a gap and if an interrupt or something occurs, it's sufficiently big for the refcount trace to go weird. I've seen it in afs/rxrpc where the incoming network packets that are part of the rxrpc call flow disrupt the refcounts noted in trace lines. David