Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750872AbVKQVOd (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:14:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750899AbVKQVOd (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:14:33 -0500 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:8414 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1750866AbVKQVOc (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:14:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp From: Lee Revell To: Chris Wright Cc: Dave Jones , Olivier Galibert , Linux-pm mailing list , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20051117210643.GG7991@shell0.pdx.osdl.net> References: <20051116164429.GA5630@kroah.com> <1132172445.25230.73.camel@localhost> <20051116220500.GF12505@elf.ucw.cz> <20051117170202.GB10402@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1132257432.4438.8.camel@mindpipe> <20051117201204.GA32376@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1132258855.4438.11.camel@mindpipe> <20051117203731.GG5772@redhat.com> <1132260851.5959.15.camel@mindpipe> <20051117210643.GG7991@shell0.pdx.osdl.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:14:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1132262060.5959.21.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1463 Lines: 30 On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 13:06 -0800, Chris Wright wrote: > * Lee Revell (rlrevell@joe-job.com) wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 15:37 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > > (Although every release we seem to trade one set of > > > working sound drivers for a new set of broken ones). > > > > Because the ALSA project does not have access to the wide variety of > > hardware required to regression test every sound driver change. People > > like Red Hat and OSDL do, but they don't help. I always figured that > > this was because those entities consider audio support a low priority. > > Haven't seen these heaps of audio hardware yet. It's not an audio only > issue, it's pervasive across many device classes. And hardware alone is > not quite sufficient. Need ability to automate testing as well. > OK I should not single out Red Hat or OSDL, it just seems like we get a lot more general gripes about ALSA regressions than we see good bug reports. All I am saying is that maybe someone from a distro with access to bug reports from a huge user base has some ideas for how we could better deal with these regressions. The ALSA project does not get many good bug reports because we are farther from the users. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/