Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750976AbVKSIlL (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:41:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750977AbVKSIlL (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:41:11 -0500 Received: from bsamwel.xs4all.nl ([82.92.179.183]:39526 "EHLO samwel.tk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750922AbVKSIlK (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:41:10 -0500 Message-ID: <437EE4B3.2090408@samwel.tk> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:39:15 +0100 From: Bart Samwel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel Machek CC: Bill Davidsen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Laptop mode causing writes to wrong sectors? References: <20051116181612.GA9231@knautsch.gondor.com> <20051117223340.GD14597@elf.ucw.cz> <437E215E.30500@tmr.com> <20051118232019.GA2359@spitz.ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20051118232019.GA2359@spitz.ucw.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bart@samwel.tk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on samwel.tk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1371 Lines: 32 Pavel Machek wrote: >> My laptop also has a spindown (five min from memory) and I have yet to >> have a problem with it. Don't know if any of that is "spindowns without >> laptopmode" in a useful sense. > > Unless you can also reproduce the failure... no, probably does not help > much. Okay, let's recap. * There are a lot of people who are not having problems. The people who *are* having problems can usually reproduce them. My interpretation: the problem is triggered by some hardware and/or kernel config settings. * A significant proportion of the people who *do* have trouble see messages about DMA timeouts. The problems do also occur on other hardware, but seem to be most pronounced on Thinkpad T40s. On those machines, the DMA timeout problems are triggered *especially* when the madwifi drivers are loaded (see http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6108). Perhaps I should start collection kernel configs and hardware specs, see if there are any unexpected commonalities. The influence of the madwifi drivers suggest that we could be be looking for anything really. What do you think? --Bart - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/