Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932360AbVKURYr (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:24:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932364AbVKURYr (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:24:47 -0500 Received: from ns2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:9152 "EHLO mx2.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932360AbVKURYq (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:24:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:24:44 +0100 From: Andi Kleen To: Andrea Arcangeli Cc: Andi Kleen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: disable tsc with seccomp Message-ID: <20051121172444.GB20775@brahms.suse.de> References: <20051105134727.GF18861@opteron.random> <200511051712.09280.ak@suse.de> <20051105163134.GC14064@opteron.random> <200511051804.08306.ak@suse.de> <20051106015542.GE14064@opteron.random> <20051121164349.GE14746@opteron.random> <20051121170517.GA20775@brahms.suse.de> <20051121171616.GH14746@opteron.random> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051121171616.GH14746@opteron.random> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1171 Lines: 28 On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 06:16:16PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 06:05:17PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 05:43:49PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > Since there was no feedback to my last post, I assume you agree, so > > > please backout the tsc disable so then I can plug the performane counter > > > disable on top of it (at zero additional runtime cost). > > > > Sorry I don't agree. > > You've the config option, turn that off on your systems, what's the > problem with that? > > Or does this mean I need to ship kernels myself with covert channels > made mathematically impossible with seccomp enabled? I'd rather avoid I don't believe theoretical, unlikely to be usable in any way covert channels are a justification to make fast paths slower. That's independent of CONFIG options. And in addition your change doesn't even close that channel in theory. -Andi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/