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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:40:20 +0200
From: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch
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Jeff Garzik wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 06:14:56PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>  
>
>>You exaggerate. Windows drivers work well enough in Windows (or so I 
>>presume). One just has to implement the environment these drivers 
>>expect, very carefully.
>>    
>>
>
>I exaggerate nothing -- we have real world experience with ndiswrapper
>and similar software, which is exactly the same model you proposed, is
>exactly the same model that has created all sorts of technical, legal,
>and political problems.
>  
>
I agree that the legal and political problems are real. I offered two 
solutions to the technical problems.

However the situation with video drivers is already bad, and 
deteriorating. I had to hunt on the Internet to get my recent (FC4) 
distro to support my low-end embedded video (via). In the future it 
looks like even that won't work.

>Dumb with a capital 'D'.
>  
>
I hope you have a better solution.
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