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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:00:01 +0200
From: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
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Diego Calleja wrote:

>El Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:08:49 +0200,
>Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il> escribi?:
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>>None of the desktop Windows installations I'm aware of exhibit this. The 
>>recent versions of Windows are fairly stable.
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>You don't seem to check frecuently windows help forums, where some people
>speaks of nvidia as the number 1 "bluescreener"...
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>Lots of windows drivers _are_ crappy. It's just a fact - some companies
>hire the wrong people. Some companies (like nvidia) get money from being
>fast, not from stability. This is a good example from a microsoft
>programmer about how some companies cheat the WHQL certification to
>get faster drivers...
>http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/03/05/84469.aspx
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>This one about silent install of drivers by "smart" installers is fun
>too: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/08/16/452141.aspx
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Awsome. Certainly a very strong point against Windows drivers.

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>>Many people have hyperthreaded CPUs today.
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>Hypertreaded CPUs can't run the two virtual cpus at the same time,
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Actually they are parallel at the instruction level. For the purpose of 
SMP-safety they are the same as true SMP. They just have different 
performance characterestics.

>>It works well on the server, where Linux has a large and rising market 
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>Linux didn't always have a large market share on servers. Again, history
>has shown that the path taken by linux until now is succesful.
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I hope you're right. But desktops are more complex, more varied, and 
have much more, er, interesting, users.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

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