Received: by 2002:a25:ab43:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id u61csp1226755ybi; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyrEU5b4ZEG+dOzOcDaOzmnXXCY0Ept82cvoPbqeSSiJ+jRTx73MJ1gkVzoOli7tsKyj9eM X-Received: by 2002:a65:40cb:: with SMTP id u11mr22036008pgp.333.1561161039673; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1561161039; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=00XZD2vj7humisTskpFwfnT6zRo98t9JY4sPXiKkWxdizu30RrlL2U+RSEOivJ8d0+ f0d8u+0KIrEbui/ynkEV5hQWXT3dA6ixPl7ol+M6FMX3srFn8qI9Yyyl0V+mvarHJkEn slAKWvVMuV6QWg27DfRARh/zyCQR/ia4+m3R3ckRpv77gJ5S9dYNO+MUuCBMnEgRnNt7 mZ3p+U1NPZim8BJP3F/Rv0lKAqVzup/V913nPCn9rpJ0Y0HIIFUg0BiXRwTvIVJadt/B 61Dr+luogRvx5qfF9CX9QlD54ryB/4eojkRjvFax0yZIjKLzznZyi17VI1gAPtuNmL3D 17tw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:references:message-id :in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=t3kpwxRzIS2RAZUJJG+2Hbe0A3ReW062USBCzrv7tWk=; b=KcW1SU7CdukiFbZ4MnmPOjzJkDtjzFyRNCOsVo8wDTwDqxj/DGXsqcKlKOo1RrQJQB YRbil8dPjckYTBkO7cLSTy6WJxmawuZiGnUIIibn7NcfAZ444slyFbCsTyREXXCtHMlY bNYuWe4scKsprBOVtrSwCyweuW+ubMK3MlPKGBRJ+QBpG0OCAA/fnp1ulsTNR4Dorb3C 2OthS/XYGwP8uxNqaoZE26wru7qmBCWL5FOoxJHhyOiAMzl1bWWzdNTLyJGMGh4FRfwf cv2+QgLU9KkvMbVPuGguRN1fycREMBTADIqfqv/vxieHrJ0Q0dmMJDHlxHWhft4z5hud NyQQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id z142si4208977pfc.128.2019.06.21.16.50.23; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726080AbfFUXuM (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 21 Jun 2019 19:50:12 -0400 Received: from kvm5.telegraphics.com.au ([98.124.60.144]:38118 "EHLO kvm5.telegraphics.com.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726045AbfFUXuM (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Jun 2019 19:50:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kvm5.telegraphics.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A2423EC0; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 19:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 09:50:24 +1000 (AEST) From: Finn Thain To: Marc Gonzalez cc: Douglas Gilbert , Bart Van Assche , James Bottomley , Martin Petersen , SCSI , LKML , Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] scsi: Don't select SCSI_PROC_FS by default In-Reply-To: <5d9d0851-f864-6d78-7e7d-9d018bea5704@free.fr> Message-ID: References: <2de15293-b9be-4d41-bc67-a69417f27f7a@free.fr> <621306ee-7ab6-9cd2-e934-94b3d6d731fc@acm.org> <017cf3cf-ecd8-19c2-3bbd-7e7c28042c3c@free.fr> <48912bc0-8c79-408d-7ed2-c127b99b8bcc@interlog.com> <5d9d0851-f864-6d78-7e7d-9d018bea5704@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, Marc Gonzalez wrote: > On 21/06/2019 01:43, Finn Thain wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2019, Marc Gonzalez wrote: > > > >> How likely is it that distro kernels would *not* enable CHR_DEV_SG? > >> (Distros tend to enable everything, and then some.) > > > > How likely is it that embedded developers would *not* disable > > CHR_DEV_SG? They tend to disable everything, and then enable only what > > they need. > > I don't see where you're going with this line of reasoning? > Exactly. This sort of reasoning goes nowhere. > Below is my current (as of next-20190612) defconfig. > > Notice the options marked as "not set". These are options that are > enabled by default (and which I've disabled). > > Everyone thinks "their" option is critical (and it is, *to them*) but, > in fact, few really are -- universally. The relevant policy is documented in Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt. If there are useful generalizations about the choice of defaults for Kconfig symbols (or changing those defaults) that are not documented then they probably should be. --