Received: by 2002:a25:f815:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id u21csp2060724ybd; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 23:33:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyA4ZrFySmYjMwGOcMcNv/PztzmPTIgGJFeHr4mULto2eqA7PyYVjuf7aujNK1u0Ppu6xf8 X-Received: by 2002:a63:e156:: with SMTP id h22mr1016258pgk.370.1561358033138; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 23:33:53 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1561358033; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=mLAuruUBtdE3o3NTbGxSdyY0lnAAGKTEGdF0+6iIGoMjzieJ9BUApfk4vN/gZutvg7 EK7IoX025J4NGW/mRtRqbaOWp9XJUD3kd7Lj5X3uOBaxT2Zconvof6MVXiZurK6OFvjf crd9mufta+PIo8CQ1xVqdogkEPm9fSwmLdVOqgsHdsRIWKLK2YtoraA5dOYQ0KA0Fp+N y6uNV+fO4IHEqdPutBT5rvJlDvHs22oQWiDeX/rP78Rl8HBHl4xOFs2Yk5SchRGyiG6y JgZQ7jWUkhay7ZVckURYPedFvnX8qvSDlFEWoVR24x2eWuSUAoul8k2bJxLIg/H4YkJ3 3Nvw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=fCrvUY0IH4pfgktsiqXmkh5n6yqXTJ61nexq2RLHVGQ=; b=mmWY0jGQ6pbmuz6y9rQP8JVd934oLDP4jaVr/xlUkhzKJSN3HBNPCWqQoC1goP4AFv F3q3hpThz4BU/tQb2xTGYRP3twL7sTBaNJsQ5wYh2i+FdkeWGQunsfrGxb+GL+Ok7ujm IYR+hc+sF1azQeormi9LBwLHi/BkUX/0CLW2/+pVEvInszotZ+FY/lG/2ZPtc6vJZZes 3/YepVy3jUI3DA/4K5dBoGe38NAFnVm8oRt254eaMcWoxT0oEHKI0fD01wCP9y7ZvX9j dlfugCMjR7ugxxN5t1OEZNRsV+2Ac2uho02YGezsBeaArjagVnzFvBaQB/HHysTfrheR N0JA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s27si9152202pga.561.2019.06.23.23.33.37; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 23:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727302AbfFXGQu (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:16:50 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]:52606 "EHLO newverein.lst.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726343AbfFXGQu (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:16:50 -0400 Received: by newverein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id A185E68AFE; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 08:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 08:16:17 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Daniel Drake Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Jens Axboe , Keith Busch , Sagi Grimberg , linux-nvme , Linux PCI , Bjorn Helgaas , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Linux Upstreaming Team , Linux Kernel , Hannes Reinecke , Alex Williamson , Dan Williams Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] nvme: rename "pci" operations to "mmio" Message-ID: <20190624061617.GA2848@lst.de> References: <20190620051333.2235-1-drake@endlessm.com> <20190620051333.2235-3-drake@endlessm.com> <20190620061038.GA20564@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 04:11:26PM +0800, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 2:11 PM Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > The Linux NVMe driver will deal with NVMe as specified plus whatever > > minor tweaks we'll need for small bugs. Hiding it behind an AHCI > > device is completely out of scope and will not be accepted. > > Do you have any new suggestions for alternative ways we can implement > support for this storage configuration? IFF we want to support it it has to be done at the PCIe layer. But even that will require actual documentation and support from Intel. If Intel still believes this scheme is their magic secret to control the NVMe market and give themselves and unfair advantage over their competitors there is not much we can do.