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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 102si11194532plf.250.2019.06.24.07.35.47; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 07:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=fail header.i=@crapouillou.net header.s=mail header.b=NrIhnbr+; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=crapouillou.net Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727912AbfFXOcI (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:32:08 -0400 Received: from outils.crapouillou.net ([89.234.176.41]:34286 "EHLO crapouillou.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726381AbfFXOcI (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:32:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crapouillou.net; s=mail; t=1561386724; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=WcRfYpxslqjeMMv94c0EcHbWB0TlPQo+i0BVV4J+n8U=; b=NrIhnbr+oSTNuqo3FVcvT5PMzu7TSB3/AiU9OfKZlByEB3o2474RdV2u+2+isCQo2dykge meSt2cFZrnKqSo+jKjEXgbJ/S930R/37tVJ7gWa097yRHJsbF85bHOSDR/9ytx1S83lJrA R9Rmp3Cs4llld8sMDqRMdHdwx/i5+hE= Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:31:57 +0200 From: Paul Cercueil Subject: Re: [PATCH] backlight: pwm_bl: Set pin to sleep state when powered down To: Daniel Thompson Cc: Thierry Reding , Lee Jones , Jingoo Han , Linus Walleij , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , od@zcrc.me, linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-Id: <1561386717.20436.0@crapouillou.net> In-Reply-To: <20190624112844.fmwbfpdxjkst3u7r@holly.lan> References: <20190522163428.7078-1-paul@crapouillou.net> <5b0f8bb3-e7b0-52c1-1f2f-9709992b76fc@linaro.org> <20190621135608.GB11839@ulmo> <20190624112844.fmwbfpdxjkst3u7r@holly.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Le lun. 24 juin 2019 =E0 13:28, Daniel Thompson=20 a =E9crit : > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 03:56:08PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 01:41:45PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote: >> > On 22/05/2019 17:34, Paul Cercueil wrote: >> > > When the driver probes, the PWM pin is automatically configured=20 >> to its >> > > default state, which should be the "pwm" function. >> > >> > At which point in the probe... and by who? >>=20 >> The driver core will select the "default" state of a device right=20 >> before >> calling the driver's probe, see: >>=20 >> drivers/base/pinctrl.c: pinctrl_bind_pins() >>=20 >> which is called from: >>=20 >> drivers/base/dd.c: really_probe() >>=20 >=20 > Thanks. I assumed it would be something like that... although given > pwm-backlight is essentially a wrapper driver round a PWM I wondered=20 > why > the pinctrl was on the backlight node (rather than the PWM node). >=20 > Looking at the DTs in the upstream kernel it looks like ~20% of the > backlight drivers have pinctrl on the backlight node. Others=20 > presumable > have none or have it on the PWM node (and it looks like support for > sleeping the pins is *very* rare amoung the PWM drivers). If your PWM driver has more than one channel and has the pinctrl node,=20 you cannot fine-tune the state of individual pins. They all share the same=20 state. >> > > However, at this >> > > point we don't know the actual level of the pin, which may be=20 >> active or >> > > inactive. As a result, if the driver probes without enabling the >> > > backlight, the PWM pin might be active, and the backlight would=20 >> be >> > > lit way before being officially enabled. >> > > >> > > To work around this, if the probe function doesn't enable the=20 >> backlight, >> > > the pin is set to its sleep state instead of the default one,=20 >> until the >> > > backlight is enabled. Whenk the backlight is disabled, the pin=20 >> is reset >> > > to its sleep state. >> > Doesn't this workaround result in a backlight flash between=20 >> whatever enables >> > it and the new code turning it off again? >>=20 >> Yeah, I think it would. I guess if you're very careful on how you=20 >> set up >> the device tree you might be able to work around it. Besides the=20 >> default >> and idle standard pinctrl states, there's also the "init" state. The >> core will select that instead of the default state if available.=20 >> However >> there's also pinctrl_init_done() which will try again to switch to=20 >> the >> default state after probe has finished and the driver didn't switch=20 >> away >> from the init state. >>=20 >> So you could presumably set up the device tree such that you have=20 >> three >> states defined: "default" would be the one where the PWM pin is=20 >> active, >> "idle" would be used when backlight is off (PWM pin inactive) and=20 >> then >> another "init" state that would be the same as "idle" to be used=20 >> during >> probe. During probe the driver could then switch to the "idle"=20 >> state so >> that the pin shouldn't glitch. >>=20 >> I'm not sure this would actually work because I think the way that >> pinctrl handles states both "init" and "idle" would be the same=20 >> pointer >> values and therefore pinctrl_init_done() would think the driver=20 >> didn't >> change away from the "init" state because it is the same pointer=20 >> value >> as the "idle" state that the driver selected. One way to work around >> that would be to duplicate the "idle" state definition and=20 >> associate one >> instance of it with the "idle" state and the other with the "init" >> state. At that point both states should be different (different=20 >> pointer >> values) and we'd get the init state selected automatically before=20 >> probe, >> select "idle" during probe and then the core will leave it alone.=20 >> That's >> of course ugly because we duplicate the pinctrl state in DT, but=20 >> perhaps >> it's the least ugly solution. >> Adding Linus for visibility. Perhaps he can share some insight. >=20 > To be honest I'm happy to summarize in my head as "if it flashes then=20 > it's not > a pwm_bl.c's problem" ;-). It does not flash. But the backlight lits way too early, so we have a=20 1-2 seconds of "white screen" before the panel driver starts. -Paul >=20 > Daniel. >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> On that note, I'm wondering if perhaps it'd make sense for pinctrl=20 >> to >> support some mode where a device would start out in idle mode. That=20 >> is, >> where pinctrl_bind_pins() would select the "idle" mode as the=20 >> default >> before probe. With something like that we could easily support this >> use-case without glitching. >>=20 >> I suppose yet another variant would be for the PWM backlight to not=20 >> use >> any of the standard pinctrl states at all. Instead it could just=20 >> define >> custom states, say "active" and "inactive". Looking at the code that >> would prevent pinctrl_bind_pins() from doing anything with pinctrl >> states and given the driver exact control over when each of the=20 >> states >> will be selected. That's somewhat suboptimal because we can't make=20 >> use >> of the pinctrl PM helpers and it'd require more boilerplate. >>=20 >> Thierry >>=20 >> > > Signed-off-by: Paul Cercueil > --- >> > > drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c | 9 +++++++++ >> > > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+) >> > > >> > > diff --git a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c=20 >> b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c >> > > index fb45f866b923..422f7903b382 100644 >> > > --- a/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c >> > > +++ b/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c >> > > @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ >> > > #include >> > > #include >> > > #include >> > > +#include >> > > #include >> > > #include >> > > #include >> > > @@ -50,6 +51,8 @@ static void pwm_backlight_power_on(struct=20 >> pwm_bl_data *pb) >> > > struct pwm_state state; >> > > int err; >> > > + pinctrl_pm_select_default_state(pb->dev); >> > > + >> > > pwm_get_state(pb->pwm, &state); >> > > if (pb->enabled) >> > > return; >> > > @@ -90,6 +93,8 @@ static void pwm_backlight_power_off(struct=20 >> pwm_bl_data *pb) >> > > regulator_disable(pb->power_supply); >> > > pb->enabled =3D false; >> > > + >> > > + pinctrl_pm_select_sleep_state(pb->dev); >> > > } >> > > static int compute_duty_cycle(struct pwm_bl_data *pb, int=20 >> brightness) >> > > @@ -626,6 +631,10 @@ static int pwm_backlight_probe(struct=20 >> platform_device *pdev) >> > > backlight_update_status(bl); >> > > platform_set_drvdata(pdev, bl); >> > > + >> > > + if (bl->props.power =3D=3D FB_BLANK_POWERDOWN) >> > > + pinctrl_pm_select_sleep_state(&pdev->dev); >> > >> > Didn't backlight_update_status(bl) already do this? >> > >> > >> > Daniel. >> > >> > >> > > + >> > > return 0; >> > > err_alloc: >> > > >> > >=20 >=20 =