Received: by 2002:a25:f815:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id u21csp3167476ybd; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzIvKm8f2/3lV0369ZFHqfnc9mZaUSZzkjdQ9nxo7r36cp1rjroPoqIqPsfm+ou3BQIAGQi X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:25e6:: with SMTP id k93mr29521503pje.100.1561434550880; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1561434550; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Cbm28FifEOSTzLoIc+jzb7q0N5jEWTpd+YEKJyUZ5h8LiLYwjU5+K/N36/UEp+lYVh QjQn01ZeiiVn3d5m8YSEJTKT1M7STWF8beQ4x1yFyHzndWTu3t58n9bf8FSGasxdBmLv H+tA303fP+jKPbx82N8jJ+pm6HvtcUAPNza/ikJtVQttAt5ZDZD4yf9qGr7QCSOn+cSi la3AGuER7ZVPmup4EwdOU8VWe4jnJubeLYZqNnpt7/5y9b5UcPxyrY7DW6Q5mMR4ERYO 6TX5RkfoO+OIziOZkVnNaTfkgZKk0Whx46+dJXiYFIZEqQIgWmPazqCNrXBfvTNXb0bU 9Cmg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:user-agent:references :message-id:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=CIdpQHxrccQs1KQIcuU+9EiaSWEGS6N47CpMzyhqr0s=; b=BB7fmzzCwI64JlRIsI0+nQU5BCxsI/VCzx6SAWdTFXm8ho6SkUlWYQVWl5Ir6GsuDR n56KSITy+RLoyPLMQQ58AE0hxRSDF/0V2KMEb4uheE30oUwZys7ZeJOL/NBLjmvFw30f hSigc3WecpH+D7Zr4Q3Zx/ozv1b3+OlFnQUySGQgRGNpx39hHB7dSCSdvq7hi0QpZ3CD /o9dv9OlxgKKHQCZ0kzsRlEy4dwZZXaUwg4akTEtqQm9KmqceYnocmBVuiPlvAGUPvyA TNChR7WiIhvUqREE2AleGRNrurubtjmxxsuTJ4ZlH3qj4D1gTcdiAd3mMa54v5OEe5Ic imRQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u5si12570379pgi.218.2019.06.24.20.48.55; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728018AbfFXXBy (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:01:54 -0400 Received: from namei.org ([65.99.196.166]:47492 "EHLO namei.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726551AbfFXXBy (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:01:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by namei.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x5ON1iYt008506; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 23:01:44 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:01:44 +1000 (AEST) From: James Morris To: Matthew Garrett cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Smalley , Andy Lutomirski , John Johansen , Casey Schaufler Subject: Re: [PATCH V34 00/29] Lockdown as an LSM In-Reply-To: <20190622000358.19895-1-matthewgarrett@google.com> Message-ID: References: <20190622000358.19895-1-matthewgarrett@google.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LRH 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Minor updates over V33 - security_is_locked_down renamed to > security_locked_down, return value of security_locked_down is returned > in most cases, one unnecessary patch was dropped, couple of minor nits > fixed. Thanks for the respin. We are still not resolved on granularity. Stephen has said he's not sure if a useful policy can be constructed with just confidentiality and integrity settings. I'd be interested to know JJ and Casey's thoughts on lockdown policy flexibility wrt their respective LSMs. These are also "all or nothing" choices which may prevent deployment due to a user needing to allow (presumably controlled or mitigated) exceptions to the policy. -- James Morris