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Date:   Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:19:03 +0200
From:   Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
To:     David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/25] VFS: Introduce filesystem information query
 syscall [ver #14]
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 12:05:25PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 03:08:45PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Al,
> > 
> > Here are a set of patches that adds a syscall, fsinfo(), that allows
> > attributes of a filesystem/superblock to be queried.  Attribute values are
> > of four basic types:
> > 
> >  (1) Version dependent-length structure (size defined by type).
> > 
> >  (2) Variable-length string (up to PAGE_SIZE).
> > 
> >  (3) Array of fixed-length structures (up to INT_MAX size).
> > 
> >  (4) Opaque blob (up to INT_MAX size).
> > 
> > Attributes can have multiple values in up to two dimensions and all the
> > values of a particular attribute must have the same type.
> > 
> > Note that the attribute values *are* allowed to vary between dentries
> > within a single superblock, depending on the specific dentry that you're
> > looking at.
> > 
> > I've tried to make the interface as light as possible, so integer/enum
> > attribute selector rather than string and the core does all the allocation
> > and extensibility support work rather than leaving that to the filesystems.
> > That means that for the first two attribute types, sb->s_op->fsinfo() may
> > assume that the provided buffer is always present and always big enough.
> > 
> > Further, this removes the possibility of the filesystem gaining access to the
> > userspace buffer.
> > 
> > 
> > fsinfo() allows a variety of information to be retrieved about a filesystem
> > and the mount topology:
> > 
> >  (1) General superblock attributes:
> > 
> >       - The amount of space/free space in a filesystem (as statfs()).
> >       - Filesystem identifiers (UUID, volume label, device numbers, ...)
> >       - The limits on a filesystem's capabilities
> >       - Information on supported statx fields and attributes and IOC flags.
> >       - A variety single-bit flags indicating supported capabilities.
> >       - Timestamp resolution and range.
> >       - Sources (as per mount(2), but fsconfig() allows multiple sources).
> >       - In-filesystem filename format information.
> >       - Filesystem parameters ("mount -o xxx"-type things).
> >       - LSM parameters (again "mount -o xxx"-type things).
> > 
> >  (2) Filesystem-specific superblock attributes:
> > 
> >       - Server names and addresses.
> >       - Cell name.
> > 
> >  (3) Filesystem configuration metadata attributes:
> > 
> >       - Filesystem parameter type descriptions.
> >       - Name -> parameter mappings.
> >       - Simple enumeration name -> value mappings.
> > 
> >  (4) Mount topology:
> > 
> >       - General information about a mount object.
> >       - Mount device name(s).
> >       - Children of a mount object and their relative paths.
> > 
> >  (5) Information about what the fsinfo() syscall itself supports, including
> >      the number of attibutes supported and the number of capability bits
> >      supported.
> 
> Phew, this patchset is a lot. It's good of course but can we please cut
> some of the more advanced features such as querying by mount id,
> submounts etc. pp. for now?
> I feel this would help with review and since your interface is
> extensible it's really not a big deal if we defer fancy features to
> later cycles after people had more time to review and the interface has
> seen some exposure.
> 
> The mount api changes over the last months have honestly been so huge
> that any chance to make the changes smaller and easier to digest we
> should take. (I'm really not complaining. Good that the work is done and
> it's entirely ok that it's a lot of code.)
> 
> It would also be great if after you have dropped some stuff from this
> patchset and gotten an Ack we could stuff it into linux-next for some
> time because it hasn't been so far...

And I also very much recommend to remove any potential cross-dependency
between the fsinfo() and the notification patchset.
Ideally, I'd like to see fsinfo() to be completely independent to not
block it on something way more controversial.
Furthermore, I can't possibly keep the context of another huge patchset
not yet merged in the back of my mind while reviewing this patchset. :)

Christian