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McKenney" To: Byungchul Park Cc: Joel Fernandes , josh@joshtriplett.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, jiangshanlai@gmail.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@lge.com Subject: Re: [RFC] rcu: Warn that rcu ktheads cannot be spawned Reply-To: paulmck@linux.ibm.com References: <1561364852-5113-1-git-send-email-byungchul.park@lge.com> <20190624164624.GA41314@google.com> <20190624172551.GI26519@linux.ibm.com> <20190625024100.GA10912@X58A-UD3R> <20190625133115.GV26519@linux.ibm.com> <20190626025120.GA3452@X58A-UD3R> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190626025120.GA3452@X58A-UD3R> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 19062616-0072-0000-0000-000004414D97 X-IBM-SpamModules-Scores: X-IBM-SpamModules-Versions: BY=3.00011335; HX=3.00000242; KW=3.00000007; PH=3.00000004; SC=3.00000286; SDB=6.01223606; UDB=6.00643942; IPR=6.01004785; MB=3.00027478; MTD=3.00000008; XFM=3.00000015; UTC=2019-06-26 16:30:48 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 19062616-0073-0000-0000-00004CB176E6 Message-Id: <20190626163045.GB26519@linux.ibm.com> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2019-06-26_09:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1906260193 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 11:51:20AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 06:31:15AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:41:00AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:25:51AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 12:46:24PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 05:27:32PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote: > > > > > > Hello rcu folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought it'd better to announce it if those spawnings fail because of > > > > > > !rcu_scheduler_fully_active. > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, with the current code, it never happens though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > It seems in the right spirit, but with your patch a warning always fires. > > > > > rcu_prepare_cpu() is called multiple times, once from rcu_init() and then > > > > > from hotplug paths. > > > > > > > > > > Warning splat stack looks like: > > > > > > > > > > [ 0.398767] Call Trace: > > > > > [ 0.398775] rcu_init+0x6aa/0x724 > > > > > [ 0.398779] start_kernel+0x220/0x4a2 > > > > > [ 0.398780] ? copy_bootdata+0x12/0xac > > > > > [ 0.398782] secondary_startup_64+0xa4/0xb0 > > > > > > > > Thank you both, and I will remove this from my testing queue. > > > > > > > > As Joel says, this is called at various points in the boot sequence, not > > > > all of which are far enough along to support spawning kthreads. > > > > > > > > The real question here is "What types of bugs are we trying to defend > > > > against?" But keeping in mind existing diagnostics. For example, are > > > > there any kthreads for which a persistent failure to spawn would not > > > > emit any error message. My belief is that any such persistent failure > > > > would result in either an in-kernel diagnostic or an rcutorture failure, > > > > but I might well be missing something. > > > > > > > > Thoughts? Or, more to the point, tests demonstrating silence in face > > > > of such a persistent failure? > > > > > > You are right. There wouldn't be a persistent failure because the path > > > turning cpus on always tries to spawn them, *even* in case that the > > > booting sequence is wrong. The current code anyway goes right though. > > > > > > I thought a hole can be there if the code changes so that those kthreads > > > cannot be spawned until the cpu being up, which is the case I was > > > interested in. Again, it's gonna never happen with the current code > > > because it spawns them after setting rcu_scheduler_fully_active to 1 in > > > rcu_spawn_gp_kthead(). > > > > > > And I wrongly thought you placed the rcu_scheduler_fully_active check on > > > spawning just in case. But it seems to be not the case. > > > > > > So I'd better stop working on the warning patch. :) Instead, please > > > check the following trivial fix. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Byungchul > > > > > > ---8<--- > > > >From 1293d19bb7abf7553d656c81182118eff54e7dc9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > > > From: Byungchul Park > > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:22:11 +0900 > > > Subject: [PATCH] rcu: Make rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread() return void > > > > > > The return value of rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread() is not used any > > > longer. Change the return type from int to void. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Byungchul Park > > > > Looks pretty good, just one comment below. Plus could you please tell > > me what you are developing this against? > > Only for removing out-dated code. Not for funcational change. I was actually expecting an answer of the form "current mainline", "v5.2-rc3", "-rcu branch dev", or some such. If need be, I will ask again for your next version. ;-) > And simple answer below... > > > > > Thanx, Paul > > > > > --- > > > kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h | 15 +++++++-------- > > > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) > > > > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h > > > index 1102765..4e11aa4 100644 > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h > > > @@ -1131,7 +1131,7 @@ static void rcu_preempt_boost_start_gp(struct rcu_node *rnp) > > > * already exist. We only create this kthread for preemptible RCU. > > > * Returns zero if all is well, a negated errno otherwise. > > > */ > > > -static int rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread(struct rcu_node *rnp) > > > +static void rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread(struct rcu_node *rnp) > > > { > > > int rnp_index = rnp - rcu_get_root(); > > > unsigned long flags; > > > @@ -1139,25 +1139,24 @@ static int rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread(struct rcu_node *rnp) > > > struct task_struct *t; > > > > > > if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU)) > > > - return 0; > > > + return; > > > > > > if (!rcu_scheduler_fully_active || rcu_rnp_online_cpus(rnp) == 0) > > > - return 0; > > > + return; > > > > > > rcu_state.boost = 1; > > > if (rnp->boost_kthread_task != NULL) > > > - return 0; > > > + return; > > > t = kthread_create(rcu_boost_kthread, (void *)rnp, > > > "rcub/%d", rnp_index); > > > if (IS_ERR(t)) > > > > This would be a change in behavior, but it might be good to have a > > WARN_ON_ONCE() above. Assuming that it doesn't splat on every boot. ;-) > > Yes. Normally it shouldn't. Right? I will resend this after testing with > my machine. :) My guess is that it will not splat, but if it does, it would not be the first time that RCU has surprised me. ;-) Thanx, Paul > Thanks, > Byungchul > > > > > > - return PTR_ERR(t); > > > + return; > > > raw_spin_lock_irqsave_rcu_node(rnp, flags); > > > rnp->boost_kthread_task = t; > > > raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore_rcu_node(rnp, flags); > > > sp.sched_priority = kthread_prio; > > > sched_setscheduler_nocheck(t, SCHED_FIFO, &sp); > > > wake_up_process(t); /* get to TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE quickly. */ > > > - return 0; > > > } > > > > > > static void rcu_cpu_kthread_setup(unsigned int cpu) > > > @@ -1265,7 +1264,7 @@ static void __init rcu_spawn_boost_kthreads(void) > > > if (WARN_ONCE(smpboot_register_percpu_thread(&rcu_cpu_thread_spec), "%s: Could not start rcub kthread, OOM is now expected behavior\n", __func__)) > > > return; > > > rcu_for_each_leaf_node(rnp) > > > - (void)rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread(rnp); > > > + rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread(rnp); > > > } > > > > > > static void rcu_prepare_kthreads(int cpu) > > > @@ -1275,7 +1274,7 @@ static void rcu_prepare_kthreads(int cpu) > > > > > > /* Fire up the incoming CPU's kthread and leaf rcu_node kthread. */ > > > if (rcu_scheduler_fully_active) > > > - (void)rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread(rnp); > > > + rcu_spawn_one_boost_kthread(rnp); > > > } > > > > > > #else /* #ifdef CONFIG_RCU_BOOST */ > > > -- > > > 1.9.1 > > > >