Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751219AbVK1CBO (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:01:14 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751220AbVK1CBO (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:01:14 -0500 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.205]:13502 "EHLO zproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751219AbVK1CBO (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:01:14 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=hjGVG++pP2sqq64QSA3vHx4MrIXF4wWfFbAt0FYhMt7p+l01qlRO7jTJ6j3IAbskX2Gg8FJZSLln0tKw0KsZc2Nrt7xbcgL/AdC59PTqn/b95emxf4rC5MwwOiIXkFDymbeL1I0yVdnHRMrd7sJK5Ttkleu8CthnLdraQImRNFE= From: Patrick McFarland To: Mark Knecht Subject: Re: umount Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:01:07 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9 Cc: gcoady@gmail.com, Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200511272154.jARLsBb11446@apps.cwi.nl> <5bdc1c8b0511271742y75306962h67193b8a0191841d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0511271742y75306962h67193b8a0191841d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511272101.07771.diablod3@gmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1605 Lines: 34 On Sunday 27 November 2005 20:42, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 11/27/05, Grant Coady wrote: > > It leaves me with a little distrust of linux' handling of non-locked > > removable media (as opposed to lockable media like a zipdisk or cdrom). > > > > Grant. > > Under Windows, if a 1394 drive is unplugged without unmounting, it you > get a pop up dialog on screen telling you that data may be lost, etc. > while under any of the main environments I've tried under Linux > (Gnome, KDE, fluxbox) there are no such messages to the user. I have > not investigated log files very deeply, other than to say that dmesg > will show the drive going away but doesn't say it was a problem. > > I realize it's probably 100x more difficult to do this under Linux, at > least at the gui level, but I agree with your main point that my trust > factor is just a bit lower here. No, WIndows says that because it is unable to mount a partition as sync, unlike Linux. Linux Desktop Environments simply don't tell the user because no data is lost if they unplug the media. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || diablod3@gmail.com "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/