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McKenney" Cc: Steven Rostedt , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , rcu , LKML , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra , Josh Triplett , Mathieu Desnoyers , Lai Jiangshan Subject: Re: [RFC] Deadlock via recursive wakeup via RCU with threadirqs Message-ID: <20190627181638.GA209455@google.com> References: <20190626135447.y24mvfuid5fifwjc@linutronix.de> <20190626162558.GY26519@linux.ibm.com> <20190627142436.GD215968@google.com> <20190627103455.01014276@gandalf.local.home> <20190627153031.GA249127@google.com> <20190627155506.GU26519@linux.ibm.com> <20190627173831.GW26519@linux.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190627173831.GW26519@linux.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:38:31AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:47:24PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:34:55AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:24:36 -0400 > > > > > Joel Fernandes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What am I missing here? > > > > > > > > > > > > This issue I think is > > > > > > > > > > > > (in normal process context) > > > > > > spin_lock_irqsave(rq_lock); // which disables both preemption and interrupt > > > > > > // but this was done in normal process context, > > > > > > // not from IRQ handler > > > > > > rcu_read_lock(); > > > > > > <---------- IPI comes in and sets exp_hint > > > > > > > > > > How would an IPI come in here with interrupts disabled? > > > > > > > > > > -- Steve > > > > > > > > This is true, could it be rcu_read_unlock_special() got called for some > > > > *other* reason other than the IPI then? > > > > > > > > Per Sebastian's stack trace of the recursive lock scenario, it is happening > > > > during cpu_acct_charge() which is called with the rq_lock held. > > > > > > > > The only other reasons I know off to call rcu_read_unlock_special() are if > > > > 1. the tick indicated that the CPU has to report a QS > > > > 2. an IPI in the middle of the reader section for expedited GPs > > > > 3. preemption in the middle of a preemptible RCU reader section > > > > > > 4. Some previous reader section was IPIed or preempted, but either > > > interrupts, softirqs, or preemption was disabled across the > > > rcu_read_unlock() of that previous reader section. > > > > Hi Paul, I did not fully understand 4. The previous RCU reader section > > could not have been IPI'ed or been preempted if interrupts were > > disabled across. Also, if softirq/preempt is disabled across the > > previous reader section, the previous reader could not be preempted in > > these case. > > Like this, courtesy of the consolidation of RCU flavors: > > previous_reader() > { > rcu_read_lock(); > do_something(); /* Preemption happened here. */ > local_irq_disable(); /* Cannot be the scheduler! */ > do_something_else(); > rcu_read_unlock(); /* Must defer QS, task still queued. */ > do_some_other_thing(); > local_irq_enable(); > } > > current_reader() /* QS from previous_reader() is still deferred. */ > { > local_irq_disable(); /* Might be the scheduler. */ > do_whatever(); > rcu_read_lock(); > do_whatever_else(); > rcu_read_unlock(); /* Must still defer reporting QS. */ > do_whatever_comes_to_mind(); > local_irq_enable(); > } > > Both instances of rcu_read_unlock() need to cause some later thing > to report the quiescent state, and in some cases it will do a wakeup. > Now, previous_reader()'s IRQ disabling cannot be due to scheduler rq/pi > locks due to the rule about holding them across the entire RCU reader > if they are held across the rcu_read_unlock(). But current_reader()'s > IRQ disabling might well be due to the scheduler rq/pi locks, so > current_reader() must be careful about doing wakeups. Makes sense now, thanks. > > That leaves us with the only scenario where the previous reader was > > IPI'ed while softirq/preempt was disabled across it. Is that what you > > meant? > > No, but that can also happen. > > > But in this scenario, the previous reader should have set > > exp_hint to false in the previous reader's rcu_read_unlock_special() > > invocation itself. So I would think t->rcu_read_unlock_special should > > be 0 during the new reader's invocation thus I did not understand how > > rcu_read_unlock_special can be called because of a previous reader. > > Yes, exp_hint would unconditionally be set to false in the first > reader's rcu_read_unlock(). But .blocked won't be. Makes sense. > > I'll borrow some of that confused color paint if you don't mind ;-) > > And we should document this somewhere for future sanity preservation > > :-D > > Or adjust the code and requirements to make it more sane, if feasible. > > My current (probably wildly unreliable) guess that the conditions in > rcu_read_unlock_special() need adjusting. I was assuming that in_irq() > implies a hardirq context, in other words that in_irq() would return > false from a threaded interrupt handler. If in_irq() instead returns > true from within a threaded interrupt handler, then this code in > rcu_read_unlock_special() needs fixing: > > if ((exp || in_irq()) && irqs_were_disabled && use_softirq && > (in_irq() || !t->rcu_read_unlock_special.b.deferred_qs)) { > // Using softirq, safe to awaken, and we get > // no help from enabling irqs, unlike bh/preempt. > raise_softirq_irqoff(RCU_SOFTIRQ); > > The fix would be replacing the calls to in_irq() with something that > returns true only if called from within a hardirq context. > Thoughts? I am not sure if this will fix all cases though? I think the crux of the problem is doing a recursive wake up. The threaded IRQ probably just happens to be causing it here, it seems to me this problem can also occur on a non-threaded irq system (say current_reader() in your example executed in a scheduler path in process-context and not from an interrupt). Is that not possible? I think the fix should be to prevent the wake-up not based on whether we are in hard/soft-interrupt mode but that we are doing the rcu_read_unlock() from a scheduler path (if we can detect that) I lost track of this code: if ((exp || in_irq()) && irqs_were_disabled && use_softirq && (in_irq() || !t->rcu_read_unlock_special.b.deferred_qs)) { Was this patch posted to the list? I will blame it to try to get some context. It sounds like you added more conditions on when to kick the softirq. > Ugh. Same question about IRQ work. Will the current use of it by > rcu_read_unlock_special() cause breakage in the presence of threaded > interrupt handlers? /me needs to understand why the irq work stuff was added here as well. Have my work cut out for the day! ;-) thanks, - Joel > > Thanx, Paul > > > thanks, > > - Joel > > > > > > > > > > > > I -think- that this is what Sebastian is seeing. > > > > > > Thanx, Paul > > > > > > > 1. and 2. are not possible because interrupts are disabled, that's why the > > > > wakeup_softirq even happened. > > > > 3. is not possible because we are holding rq_lock in the RCU reader section. > > > > > > > > So I am at a bit of a loss how this can happen :-( > > > > > > > > Spurious call to rcu_read_unlock_special() may be when it should not have > > > > been called? > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > - Joel >