Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964803AbVK2XHY (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:07:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964804AbVK2XHY (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:07:24 -0500 Received: from ozlabs.org ([203.10.76.45]:2794 "EHLO ozlabs.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964803AbVK2XHX (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:07:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:07:04 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Andi Kleen Cc: Nicholas Miell , Stephane Eranian , Ray Bryant , discuss@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Perfctr-devel] Re: Enabling RDPMC in user space by default Message-ID: <20051129230704.GA9659@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: David Gibson , Andi Kleen , Nicholas Miell , Stephane Eranian , Ray Bryant , discuss@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net References: <20051129151515.GG19515@wotan.suse.de> <200511291056.32455.raybry@mpdtxmail.amd.com> <20051129180903.GB6611@frankl.hpl.hp.com> <20051129181344.GN19515@wotan.suse.de> <1133300591.3271.1.camel@entropy> <20051129215207.GR19515@wotan.suse.de> <1133303615.3271.12.camel@entropy> <20051129224346.GS19515@wotan.suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051129224346.GS19515@wotan.suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 984 Lines: 22 On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 11:43:47PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Well, RDPMC isn't defined at all. You're assuming that future processor > > revisions will have the same or substantially similar PerfCtrs as > > current processors, and nothing guarantees that at all. > > Point, but i guess it is reasonable to assume that future x85 CPUs > will have cycle counter perfctrs. I cannot imagine anybody dropping > such a basic facility. It need not necessarily remain configurable to be in PMC 0 however. Nor do the the PMC MSRs have to remain fixed.. -- David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_ | _way_ _around_! http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/