Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:49:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:48:58 -0400 Received: from hermine.idb.hist.no ([158.38.50.15]:39954 "HELO hermine.idb.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:48:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3BC1A062.6E953751@idb.hist.no> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:47:30 +0200 From: Helge Hafting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [no] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.11-pre2 i686) X-Accept-Language: no, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Fedyk CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: low-latency patches In-Reply-To: <20011006010519.A749@draal.physics.wisc.edu> <3BBEA8CF.D2A4BAA8@zip.com.au> <20011006150024.C2625@mikef-linux.matchmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mike Fedyk wrote: >On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 11:46:39PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > But the next rank of applications - instrumentation, control systems, > > media production sytems, etc require 500-1000 usec latencies, and > > the group of people who require this is considerably smaller. And their > > requirements are quite aggressive. And maintaining that performance > > with either approach is a fair bit of work and impacts (by definition) > > the while kernel. That's all an argument for keeping it offstream. > > > > And exactly how is low latency going to hurt the majority? > > This reminds me of when 4GB on ia32 was enough, or 16 bit UIDs, or... Low latency wobviously won't do damage by itself. But Andrew Morton said it well: "And maintaining that performance with either approach is a fair bit of work and impacts (by definition) the whole kernel." I.e. it is too much work to get right (and keep right). The amount of developers is finite, their time can be better spent on other improvements. All future improvement will be harder if we also have to _maintain_ extreme low latency. This is not fix-it-once thing. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/