Received: by 2002:a25:ad19:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id y25csp8061444ybi; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 08:32:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyq1EuFQ6ClMJpCUR/QSJbZCW+AqRyUiLi3dwAJP/7VSTO2vFTdMftQvehHmRP/xEYczhqB X-Received: by 2002:a63:4554:: with SMTP id u20mr32102035pgk.406.1562686341185; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:32:21 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1562686341; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Ew/sN8sslpcmlGfAe0BR6XwnFaPdck5scgXXuNBvY8PGE3XEF6xpb5WTr+DEmIE+mR FiW1D4AZiLzR9ywYTNZNVYLhd0sQDQw1RNSAj+GS1y0IdtiN9HgsSnXjYUJ34J+3Md/Y O8+YQulGoiiRlg0pfPPaMY3Z5fuxv0qWsWCbV1O1egoCUUZTqgkQotfSYJcuZ2DZnsed j0yIZiVWLtJdcJrp8jLkr/5shQSLRtn1UMSEZn4m+7TDIHJMeyQMgC4uqMmfaKoFqMfs 3XWDmmEGpYWutoPsbebfkr9TPanlIylIk2cdIrx1oXnCOhS9MRLFoXT8SELBEY/5lQ5N fhKg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:mail-followup-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=4eQZYVrbqGzx0yie0Jzg2ZUuhoI7JSQG3ltb43LJ3Zs=; b=u0VbbfSsCUZ8q3mulmooIaUh1OYE75kKaf+N67jsBGPGURtnOs9xe0FmPc9IZPtuJL 1t8ib0ZRO/2/rFNF0t4f/tIYQKIANi7hVahu/kWXtIfTLuzuvWmOMVwQOvpoYPy1Via0 JSIQkD0c/t/jDAh2AeIO6VK5DnsWX0D/8xwiLY6ztBX4UEDsmsk/mLoBeE10eHwiKEVv TZkJkokIsnyAUKXdfNZN1PaatO+UXc0AreVYhts3jM5PYZSR/YiDIm1khAqiUDHVZ0hF 1n5xi77x1zJFK0rGzpb6pCeiYv4E3nSSr142B6kJIundNaQQFp7zlKaFLHLPC1habpo+ PsqA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g2si20849927plp.1.2019.07.09.08.32.05; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726512AbfGIPbA (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:31:00 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:36107 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726444AbfGIPa6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:30:58 -0400 Received: from callcc.thunk.org ([199.116.118.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id x69FUe61012204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:30:42 -0400 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id D86D942002E; Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:30:39 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , Alexander Viro , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org Subject: Re: Procedure questions - new filesystem driver.. Message-ID: <20190709153039.GA3200@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Matthew Wilcox , Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , Alexander Viro , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org References: <21080.1562632662@turing-police> <20190709045020.GB23646@mit.edu> <20190709112136.GI32320@bombadil.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190709112136.GI32320@bombadil.infradead.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 04:21:36AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > How does > https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-open-sources-its-entire-patent-portfolio/ > change your personal opinion? According to SFC's legal analysis, Microsoft joining the OIN doesn't mean that the eXFAT patents are covered, unless *Microsoft* contributes the code to the Linux usptream kernel. That's because the OIN is governed by the Linux System Definition, and until MS contributes code which covered by the exFAT patents, it doesn't count. For more details: https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2018/oct/10/microsoft-oin-exfat/ (This is not legal advice, and I am not a lawyer.) - Ted