Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932224AbVLDNfl (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Dec 2005 08:35:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932225AbVLDNfl (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Dec 2005 08:35:41 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:32162 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932224AbVLDNfk (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 Dec 2005 08:35:40 -0500 Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel From: Arjan van de Ven To: Matthias Andree Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20051204132813.GA4769@merlin.emma.line.org> References: <20051203135608.GJ31395@stusta.de> <1133620598.22170.14.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051203152339.GK31395@stusta.de> <20051203162755.GA31405@merlin.emma.line.org> <1133630556.22170.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051203230520.GJ25722@merlin.emma.line.org> <43923DD9.8020301@wolfmountaingroup.com> <20051204121209.GC15577@merlin.emma.line.org> <1133699555.5188.29.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051204132813.GA4769@merlin.emma.line.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 14:35:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1133703338.5188.38.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.0.4 on pentafluge.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address [213.93.14.173 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 1.7 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did non-local SMTP [213.93.14.173 listed in combined.njabl.org] X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1737 Lines: 43 On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 14:28 +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > I meant the ipmi, smbus and copa modules by Fujitsu-Siemens. > > They are provided in source form, but I just found out (reading the > headers and not just the lines that broke the compile) they are not open > source. Perhaps one should prod them to slap a modified-BSD or perhaps > GPL label onto their modules. is there an URL to these? > > It seems you'd then maintain them after their submission? :-) usually such modules are extremely low maintenance once merged.... There are many many drivers without a maintainer, and they still get fixed. > > It's rare even in the 2.6 tree to mass-break well written drivers. Just > > because it's a lot of work to fix all in kernel drivers up. But a fully > > stable API is also not good. My guess is that the drivers that break > > most are the ones using the not-right APIs (eg internals and such). > > These use inter_module_get() which is still there even in the latest 2.6.15-rc. It should be going out but hasn't yet. And that is the case for at least a year (eg they are __deprecated but still there). > and some #include headers that have moved around between > linux and asm directories. Most of those were already in the final place with a temporary compat header in the old one I guess. But if this is all.... that really isn't a big deal. I suspect some of these headers aren't even used by the driver (sometimes people just include the world for no reason).. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/