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Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:26:35 +0200
From: Indrek Kruusa <indrek.kruusa@tuleriit.ee>
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To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel
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Arjan van de Ven wrote:

>>nt model (or at least they have no resources to 
>>do testing [Torvalds])
>>c) end-users (or those who are not kernel maintainers) are directed 
>>permanently to distros kernels and "stay away from kernel.org you 
>>wanna-bees!
>>    
>>
>
>this is not what is being said. What is being said is that if you can't
>deal with occasional breakage, you're better off using vendor kernels.
>But.. if you can't deal with occasional breakage, you wouldn't test test
>kernels EITHER. If you can deal with an occasional breakage, I hope you
>and everyone else who can, will run and test kernel.org kernels,
>especially the -rc ones. 
>
>Most of the "instability" people complain about with the new 2.6 model
>is caused by people not testing the -rc kernels before they are
>released, so that they end up being released with regressions.
>

I think I have seen special live-cd distribution for KDE beta testers. 
Kernel is not a KDE but such a very broken distribution with -rc kernel 
could be more easily maintained than "udev forever!". Live-cd (or 
live-usb) wouldn't be too flexible - you can't say there "can you give a 
whirl to this patch, please" but I bet you will have more testers.

thanks,
Indrek

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