Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932492AbVLESeG (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:34:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932498AbVLESeG (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:34:06 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:58060 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932492AbVLESeF (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:34:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario From: Arjan van de Ven To: Andrew Walrond Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200512051826.06703.andrew@walrond.org> References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <200512051826.06703.andrew@walrond.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:34:01 +0100 Message-Id: <1133807641.9356.50.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.0.4 on pentafluge.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address [213.93.14.173 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 1.7 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did non-local SMTP [213.93.14.173 listed in combined.njabl.org] X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1262 Lines: 32 On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 18:26 +0000, Andrew Walrond wrote: > On Monday 05 December 2005 10:52, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > a hypothetical doomsday scenario by Arjan van de Ven > > > > Can I ask what prompted your post? I got one too many hatemails from a "nvidia fanboy" who blamed me for just about anything wrong in the world.... I fear that most of these people have no idea why open source drivers matter, or at least what the consequences are for not caring about drivers being open or not. > > > > > On December 6th, 2005 the kernel developers en mass decide that binary > > modules are legally fine and also essential for the progress of linux, > > Has anyone (influential) actually being toying with this idea? I hope not, but > if they are, I'd like to know who to lobby... this part of the "story" is fiction. A lot of the rest is not. There are already several servers that you can only use with binary modules.. modules only available in full binary form for RHEL and SLES kernels for example. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/