Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:51:10 +0100
From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel
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On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 03:24:54PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 12:56:50PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote:
> > The problem is the upstream breaking backwards compatibility for no good
> > reason. This can sometimes be a genuine unintended regression (aka.
> > bug), but quite often this is deliberate breakage because someone wants
> > to get rid of cruft. While the motivation is sound, breaking between
> > 2.6.N and 2.6.M must stop.
> 
> What are we breaking that people are complaining so much about?
> Specifics please.
> 
> And if you bring up udev, please see my previous comments in this thread
> about that issue.
> 
> It isn't userspace stuff that is breaking, as applications built on 2.2
> still work just fine here on 2.6 for me.
> 
> Yes we break in-kernel apis, all the time, that's fine.  See
> Documentation/stable-api-nonsense.txt for details about why we do that.
> 
> So again, specifics please?

It's the kernel-related userspace that is the problem (besides 
regressions that are simply bugs).

Be it the devfs removal, the requirement for a more recent
wpa_supplicant package or my pending removal of the obsolete
raw driver.

> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h

cu
Adrian

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