Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964919AbVLFCHg (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:07:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964920AbVLFCHg (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:07:36 -0500 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48]:805 "EHLO vms048pub.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964919AbVLFCHf (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:07:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:07:24 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Subject: Re: ntp problems In-reply-to: <1133828065.7605.50.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-id: <200512052107.24427.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Organization: None, usuallly detectable by casual observers MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200512050031.39438.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200512051833.19629.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1133828065.7605.50.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2679 Lines: 60 On Monday 05 December 2005 19:14, john stultz wrote: >On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 18:33 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 05 December 2005 16:39, john stultz wrote: >> >On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 00:31 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> Greetings everybody; >> >> >> >> I seem to have an ntp problem. I noticed a few minutes ago that >> >> if my watch was anywhere near correct, then the computer was about >> >> 6 minutes fast. Doing a service ntpd restart crash set it back >> >> nearly 6 minutes. >> > >> >Not sure exactly what is going on, but you might want to try >> > dropping the LOCAL server reference in your ntp.conf. It could be >> > you're just syncing w/ yourself. >> >> Joanne, bless her, pointed out that I had probably turned the ACPI >> stuff in my kernel back on. She was of course correct, shut it off & >> ntpd works just fine. > >Err. ACPI stuff? Could you elaborate? Sounds like you have some sort of >bug hiding there. This has been a relatively long standing problem, John. I think its possibly related to some access path in the nforce2 chipset as it seems to plague that chipset worse than others. But its long been, and I had forgotten, that if ntpd didn't work, turning off the ACPI stuff was the fix. It had worked for a few kernel.org kernels and I had become complacent. My mistake. OTOH, calling it a local bug, no, I certainly wouldn't call it a local to my machine bug. Jdow OTOH, running an FC4 box, has it enabled, and hers is working just fine. She is I believe, running the FC4's latest kernel too, so maybe the redhat people have massaged it. However, at one time several months ago I believe she also had to have a grub argument turning acpi=no. There was a bunch of ntp related patches submitted recently, and I have no idea which of them may have restored the broken acpi vs ntp scenario to its formerly broken status, again. Should it be looked at? Certainly, but I don't have the knowledge to do so. So I build kernels, and report problems areas. The canary in the coal mine so to speak. :-) -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.36% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/