Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964917AbVLFCWN (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:22:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964927AbVLFCWN (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:22:13 -0500 Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.40]:38857 "EHLO vms040pub.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964917AbVLFCWM (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:22:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:22:02 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario In-reply-to: <21d7e9970512051610n1244467am12adc8373c1a4473@mail.gmail.com> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-id: <200512052122.02485.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Organization: None, usuallly detectable by casual observers MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4394D396.1020102@am.sony.com> <21d7e9970512051610n1244467am12adc8373c1a4473@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2776 Lines: 56 On Monday 05 December 2005 19:10, Dave Airlie wrote: >> To the larger argument about supporting binary drivers, >> all Arjan manages to prove with his post is that, >> if handled in the worst possible way, support for >> binary drivers would be a disaster. Who can disagree >> with that? > >And do you think that given the opportunity, any company is going >spend the extra money required to not do it in the worst possible >way?? Companies want to spend as little as possible on drivers, and >drop support as soon as it makes sense financially to do so, they >aren't going to come to the correct best possible way on their own, or >via consortia of companies ala CEL or OSDL, they require outside >pressure to make them change their mindset from the only example they >have which is developing Windows drivers.. > Which is the best reason in the world to buy and use, the open source video card now under development, and I hear its less than 3-4 months from production status now, and at a competitive, sub $150 USD price. If 50% of nvidia's currant linux market share were to dissappear a month after this card becomes available for purchase by those whom one might categorize as believers, I'd think that would send a message loud enough to be heard. Particularly if windows drivers are available, open sourced, and installable on a winderz box using the normal install wizard, and promoted as such to the joe six-packs of the world. At the right price, that would send an even louder message to both nvidia and ati, who so far, seems to be all hat & no cattle. While the drivers in x.orgs code seem to be working fairly well, and absolutely stable, I'm sure there are hardware things in this 9200SE I have here that are not being used by x.org's code. It works well enough to play tux-racer, but not well, keyboard response acts like the machine is being hogged by the video. >Dave. >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" > in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.36% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/