Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964927AbVLFCXr (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:23:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964928AbVLFCXr (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:23:47 -0500 Received: from pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl ([200.1.19.3]:49303 "EHLO pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964927AbVLFCXq (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:23:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200512060054.jB60svAU003892@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl> To: mhf@users.berlios.de cc: Arjan van de Ven , Adrian Bunk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel In-Reply-To: Message from Michael Frank of "Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:47:24 BST." <20051205142941.DBBE92AF7@hornet.berlios.de> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.2; nmh 1.1; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 18) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:54:57 -0300 From: Horst von Brand Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1817 Lines: 42 Michael Frank wrote: [...] > As to security, most vulnerabilities are hard to exploit > remotely Right. > and practical security can be much more improved > by hiding detailed software versions from clients. Ever heard of nmap ? Or perhaps noticed all kinds of attacks against Linux using old exploits or Windows specific ones? Hiding versions is /not/ secure. At most marginally so, and the pain for whoever needs the version for legitimate reasons just isn't worth it. > Apache > 2 on linux 2.6 will do instead of providing full vendor > specific package versions! > > As to drivers, in case 3 month driver delay matters, HW > vendor can improve situation substantially by not waiting > 6+ months before (if at all) releasing drivers/docs for > linux! For /server/ type workloads, where you /need/ stability, you carefully pick the hardware and then run a selected "enterprise" distro on it. The distro people do the hard work of keeping your kernel up to date and secure. And even worry about a smooth upgrade to the next version. For a price, sure. But either you really need it (and gladly pay the price) or you don't (in which case you have nothing to complain about). -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/