Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751556AbVLFDTm (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:19:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751559AbVLFDTm (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:19:42 -0500 Received: from dsl092-053-140.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.53.140]:32930 "EHLO grelber.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751556AbVLFDTl (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:19:41 -0500 From: Rob Landley Organization: Boundaries Unlimited To: Benjamin LaHaise Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:19:28 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20051203152339.GK31395@stusta.de> <200512051647.55395.rob@landley.net> <20051205230502.GB12955@kvack.org> In-Reply-To: <20051205230502.GB12955@kvack.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512052119.28706.rob@landley.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1403 Lines: 33 On Monday 05 December 2005 17:05, Benjamin LaHaise wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 04:47:55PM -0600, Rob Landley wrote: > > So no in-kernel filesystem can get this right without help from userspace > > (even devfs had devfsd), and as soon as you've got a userspace daemon to > > tell the kernel who is who you might as well do the whole thing there, > > now that the kernel is exporting everyting _else_ we need to know via > > /sys and /sbin/hotplug. > > /sbin/hotplug is suboptimal. Even a pretty fast machine is slowed down > pretty significantly by the ~thousand fork and exec that take place during > startup. Why do you need hotplug events on startup? Can't you just scan /sys for "dev" entries do the initial populate of /dev from that? > For the most common devices -- common tty, pty, floppy, etc that > every system has, this is a plain waste of resources -- otherwise known as > bloat. I get those from a scan of /sys, and only care about hotplug events that come in after that. (Could just be me...) > -ben Rob -- Steve Ballmer: Innovation! Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/