Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751485AbVLFKvG (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 05:51:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751655AbVLFKvG (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 05:51:06 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:45004 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751485AbVLFKvE (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 05:51:04 -0500 X-Authenticated: #428038 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:51:02 +0100 From: Matthias Andree To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel Message-ID: <20051206105102.GC10574@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20051203152339.GK31395@stusta.de> <20051203225020.GF25722@merlin.emma.line.org> <20051204002043.GA1879@kroah.com> <200512051647.55395.rob@landley.net> <20051205230502.GB12955@kvack.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051205230502.GB12955@kvack.org> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1244 Lines: 26 On Mon, 05 Dec 2005, Benjamin LaHaise wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 04:47:55PM -0600, Rob Landley wrote: > > So no in-kernel filesystem can get this right without help from userspace > > (even devfs had devfsd), and as soon as you've got a userspace daemon to tell > > the kernel who is who you might as well do the whole thing there, now that > > the kernel is exporting everyting _else_ we need to know via /sys > > and /sbin/hotplug. > > /sbin/hotplug is suboptimal. Even a pretty fast machine is slowed down > pretty significantly by the ~thousand fork and exec that take place during > startup. For the most common devices -- common tty, pty, floppy, etc that > every system has, this is a plain waste of resources -- otherwise known as > bloat. You mean that distro boot scripts now need to wait for 20 seconds until hotplug has finally handled all the coldplug events so the script can finally slap the IPv4 address onto the interface or start dhcpcd. :-) -- Matthias Andree - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/