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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 09:59:44 -0500
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
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To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
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       Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel
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Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 11:17 -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
> 
>>>>>Ahh OK .. I don't use it, so wouldn't have been affected. That's one
>>>>>userspace interface broken during the series, does anyone have any more?
>>
>>Ah.. another one, that I was just reminded of again
>>by the umpteenth person posting that their wireless
>>no longer is WPA capable after upgrading from 2.6.12.
>>
>>Of course, the known solution for that issue is to
>>upgrade to the recently "fixed" latest wpa_supplicant
>>daemon in userspace, since the old one no longer works.
>>
>>Things like this are all too regular an occurance.
> 
> 
> The distro should have solved this problem by making sure that the
> kernel upgrade depends on a new wpa_supplicant package.  Don't they
> bother to test this stuff before they ship it?!?

Could you provide a little detail on the technology by which a distro
checks for functionality against a kernel which wasn't necessarily
released when the distro shipped. My udev doesn't generate /dev/timewarp.

Going to a new kernel in the same series shouldn't have to be treated as
if it were a change to a whole new operating system, and shouldn't
require completely replacing existing utilities with new ones which
aren't backware compatible to allow fallback to the original kernel.

-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

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