Received: by 2002:a25:ad19:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id y25csp8977366ybi; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:19:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz/nQKzCFiW/Q1tzmuwtgfelWYjNFNp5P5yLBt6ms70K8YDHAAnVWEXg17JT+VeZj8ZsjVx X-Received: by 2002:aa7:9834:: with SMTP id q20mr8910132pfl.196.1563934741753; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:19:01 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1563934741; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=QbolKgketfsLn1bfXNVH2FhovOstk7Z1+qCfugG0E5knyb9S5XEXWyufMJ/Z8S1Em1 b5Bdd9l9jSjZBS5ifQAnmZGXAIRuvJDlHCnx0NnQmYYg+YLJY9NjL9Z+3pQuWREyyNCS 5hdj+nXf96PKnevNqIYnHdggpijHxUfuq9D4LLEME5wLMNAej0A4fgupVHt8E0xB8kGk ZmRq23GLwC/mALg1wj3Qnhpc2r6wFBbpLJO/X0QEVqSw5+CFNWj93hj3O/APOMHTlpCt 9hiVWUfxEI3yWQO9QiisuzqKxMailjtOQeDaidAL+qyun5iD7+SpeyyJ9fFqWbNUYUZz q7Kw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=2XhJOBhqDGgsydmuwvMDfV2sCEJfax4WGKUNwfgy1vY=; b=f2W3Ylzwndk/dIkrqzb8uWmv9xpJZWv+TpDrOyZL04U26o5LxYyz09oNT2wR9FQSU1 mlXe3U24aCOyRw3nFPJSeXk12rTN1R2DZw0lCax8cweeup8eQeFYdgjArjhJS2GORxXV HxuA3lsoe9zZz+IHYsZx93a87UcORSHlW9SLy1j7T8XZAYC6GDJ/LaNLx/PGsLNJV+4g i9pkeF02Jd0OpAKJhFxPnBN7KKKyZv03AQD1D+lROtLuiz2ZdxqxY/VQ+QknCYsYcqkp O8V6H4DcI9dnDsH1Zn1FbPoyeGgsPkxj18T9W1aNQ9Jjw7Nnvnl0zMvwK8kX6YD4+UtC boVA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=redhat.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g17si11771404plo.406.2019.07.23.19.18.45; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=redhat.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2388118AbfGWO3V (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:29:21 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:53458 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729666AbfGWO3V (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:29:21 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E03EF81F18; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (unknown [10.43.17.136]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 47AC560603; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 oleg@redhat.com; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:29:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:29:18 +0200 From: Oleg Nesterov To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , Andrew Fox , Stephen Johnston , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Stanislaw Gruszka Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/cputime: make scale_stime() more precise Message-ID: <20190723142918.GC8994@redhat.com> References: <20190718131834.GA22211@redhat.com> <20190719110349.GG3419@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190719134727.GV3463@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190719143742.GA32243@redhat.com> <20190722195605.GI6698@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190723140043.GB8994@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190723140043.GB8994@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 07/23, Oleg Nesterov wrote: > > > > Yes, statistically the numbers are proportionally divided. > > > > This; due to the loss in precision the distribution is like a step > > function around the actual s:u ratio line, but on average it still is > > s:u. > > You know, I am no longer sure... perhaps it is even worse, I need to recheck. To clarify, this is probably true even if prev_cputime adds more confusion. But how many minutes (hours? days?) you need to look at /proc/pid/stat to get the average which more or less matches the reality? Oleg.