Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932364AbVLFRCA (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:02:00 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932346AbVLFRCA (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:02:00 -0500 Received: from prgy-npn2.prodigy.com ([207.115.54.38]:16951 "EHLO oddball.prodigy.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932370AbVLFRB7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:01:59 -0500 Message-ID: <4394AF89.4000408@tmr.com> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:22:17 -0500 From: Bill Davidsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050729 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lee Revell CC: Rob Landley , Adrian Bunk , David Ranson , Steven Rostedt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Matthias Andree Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel References: <20051203135608.GJ31395@stusta.de> <4391D335.7040008@unsolicited.net> <20051203175355.GL31395@stusta.de> <200512042131.13015.rob@landley.net> <4394681B.20608@rtr.ca> <1133800090.21641.17.camel@mindpipe> In-Reply-To: <1133800090.21641.17.camel@mindpipe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1706 Lines: 40 Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 11:17 -0500, Mark Lord wrote: > >>>>>Ahh OK .. I don't use it, so wouldn't have been affected. That's one >>>>>userspace interface broken during the series, does anyone have any more? >> >>Ah.. another one, that I was just reminded of again >>by the umpteenth person posting that their wireless >>no longer is WPA capable after upgrading from 2.6.12. >> >>Of course, the known solution for that issue is to >>upgrade to the recently "fixed" latest wpa_supplicant >>daemon in userspace, since the old one no longer works. >> >>Things like this are all too regular an occurance. > > > The distro should have solved this problem by making sure that the > kernel upgrade depends on a new wpa_supplicant package. Don't they > bother to test this stuff before they ship it?!? Could you provide a little detail on the technology by which a distro checks for functionality against a kernel which wasn't necessarily released when the distro shipped. My udev doesn't generate /dev/timewarp. Going to a new kernel in the same series shouldn't have to be treated as if it were a change to a whole new operating system, and shouldn't require completely replacing existing utilities with new ones which aren't backware compatible to allow fallback to the original kernel. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/