Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:46:21 -0800
From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel
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On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 03:48:06PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Greg KH:
> 
> > On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 03:29:54PM +0100, Jesper Juhl wrote:
> >> 
> >> Why can't this be done by distributors/vendors?
> >
> > It already is done by these people, look at the "enterprise" Linux
> > distributions and their 5 years of maintance (or whatever the number
> > is.)
> >
> > If people/customers want stability, they already have this option.
> 
> It seems that vendor kernels lack most DoS-related fixes.  I'm only
> aware of a single vendor which tracks them to the point that CVE names
> are assigned.

If those DoS-related problems are only related to local user DoS's, yes,
that is understandable.  If you have questions about this, ask the
vendor, they usually have a good reason for not including those fixes.

> Vendor kernels are not a panacea, either.  With some of the basic
> support contracts (in the four-figure range per year and CPU), the
> vendor won't look extensively at random kernel crashes which could (in
> theory) be attributed to faulty hardware, *and* you don't get
> community support for these heavily patched kernel collages.

Yes, the lack of community support is one thing you do give up with
them.

thanks,

greg k-h
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