Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030192AbVLFTRU (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:17:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030195AbVLFTRU (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:17:20 -0500 Received: from dsl092-053-140.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.53.140]:52369 "EHLO grelber.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030192AbVLFTRT (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:17:19 -0500 From: Rob Landley Organization: Boundaries Unlimited To: Luke-Jr Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:17:11 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List , Greg KH References: <20051203152339.GK31395@stusta.de> <200512051834.01384.rob@landley.net> <200512061034.21336.luke-jr@utopios.org> In-Reply-To: <200512061034.21336.luke-jr@utopios.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512061317.11592.rob@landley.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1204 Lines: 27 On Tuesday 06 December 2005 04:34, Luke-Jr wrote: > > > Nope, but I don't see how udev can possibly detect something that > > > doesn't let the OS know it's there-- except, of course, loading the > > > driver for it and seeing if it works. > > > > Stuff shows up in /sys whether or not Linux has a driver loaded for it. > > Only if Linux is aware it exists. I'm thinking of those old ISA cards and > such. A) This is only true for obsolete hardware. Can you name an example that's currently being manufactured? (I'm trying to figure out if serial mice count, not that you really need kernel support to detect those.) B) You can insmod the module from userspace to actively probe for stuff. If the kernel doesn't know either until it probes, and you can trigger the probe at will, what additional kernel support do you need? Rob -- Steve Ballmer: Innovation! Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/