Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030197AbVLFTVL (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:21:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030201AbVLFTVL (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:21:11 -0500 Received: from mail.dvmed.net ([216.237.124.58]:11416 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030197AbVLFTVK (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:21:10 -0500 Message-ID: <4395E491.6060807@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 14:20:49 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrea Arcangeli CC: David Woodhouse , Bernd Petrovitsch , Tim Bird , arjan@infradead.org, andrew@walrond.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <200512051826.06703.andrew@walrond.org> <1133817575.11280.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1133817888.9356.78.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1133819684.11280.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4394D396.1020102@am.sony.com> <20051206005341.GN28539@opteron.random> <4394E750.8020205@am.sony.com> <1133861208.10158.34.camel@tara.firmix.at> <1133863003.4136.42.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> <20051206145025.GY28539@opteron.random> In-Reply-To: <20051206145025.GY28539@opteron.random> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "srv2.dvmed.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > I think Linus is doing the right thing here, and he is avoiding what I > described in the previous email: that is breaking drivers gratuitously > is what could make linux hostile and too costly to support IMHO. We want > to be parnters with all hardware companies, but we want them to support > linux properly (not with binary only drivers), in a way that we can fix > it, port it to other archs, and so that we don't lose support for the > hardware while improving internal APIs. [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address [69.134.188.146 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 769 Lines: 19 Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > I think Linus is doing the right thing here, and he is avoiding what I > described in the previous email: that is breaking drivers gratuitously > is what could make linux hostile and too costly to support IMHO. We want > to be parnters with all hardware companies, but we want them to support > linux properly (not with binary only drivers), in a way that we can fix > it, port it to other archs, and so that we don't lose support for the > hardware while improving internal APIs. Agreed. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/