Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67;
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] mm / virtio: Provide support for page hinting
To:     Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
        david@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
        linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
        akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc:     yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, pagupta@redhat.com, riel@surriel.com,
        konrad.wilk@oracle.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
        wei.w.wang@intel.com, aarcange@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
        dan.j.williams@intel.com, alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com
References: <20190724165158.6685.87228.stgit@localhost.localdomain>
From:   Nitesh Narayan Lal <nitesh@redhat.com>
Openpgp: preference=signencrypt
Autocrypt: addr=nitesh@redhat.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata=
 mQINBFl4pQoBEADT/nXR2JOfsCjDgYmE2qonSGjkM1g8S6p9UWD+bf7YEAYYYzZsLtbilFTe
 z4nL4AV6VJmC7dBIlTi3Mj2eymD/2dkKP6UXlliWkq67feVg1KG+4UIp89lFW7v5Y8Muw3Fm
 uQbFvxyhN8n3tmhRe+ScWsndSBDxYOZgkbCSIfNPdZrHcnOLfA7xMJZeRCjqUpwhIjxQdFA7
 n0s0KZ2cHIsemtBM8b2WXSQG9CjqAJHVkDhrBWKThDRF7k80oiJdEQlTEiVhaEDURXq+2XmG
 jpCnvRQDb28EJSsQlNEAzwzHMeplddfB0vCg9fRk/kOBMDBtGsTvNT9OYUZD+7jaf0gvBvBB
 lbKmmMMX7uJB+ejY7bnw6ePNrVPErWyfHzR5WYrIFUtgoR3LigKnw5apzc7UIV9G8uiIcZEn
 C+QJCK43jgnkPcSmwVPztcrkbC84g1K5v2Dxh9amXKLBA1/i+CAY8JWMTepsFohIFMXNLj+B
 RJoOcR4HGYXZ6CAJa3Glu3mCmYqHTOKwezJTAvmsCLd3W7WxOGF8BbBjVaPjcZfavOvkin0u
 DaFvhAmrzN6lL0msY17JCZo046z8oAqkyvEflFbC0S1R/POzehKrzQ1RFRD3/YzzlhmIowkM
 BpTqNBeHEzQAlIhQuyu1ugmQtfsYYq6FPmWMRfFPes/4JUU/PQARAQABtCVOaXRlc2ggTmFy
 YXlhbiBMYWwgPG5pbGFsQHJlZGhhdC5jb20+iQI9BBMBCAAnBQJZeKUKAhsjBQkJZgGABQsJ
 CAcCBhUICQoLAgQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEKOGQNwGMqM56lEP/A2KMs/pu0URcVk/kqVwcBhU
 SnvB8DP3lDWDnmVrAkFEOnPX7GTbactQ41wF/xwjwmEmTzLrMRZpkqz2y9mV0hWHjqoXbOCS
 6RwK3ri5e2ThIPoGxFLt6TrMHgCRwm8YuOSJ97o+uohCTN8pmQ86KMUrDNwMqRkeTRW9wWIQ
 EdDqW44VwelnyPwcmWHBNNb1Kd8j3xKlHtnS45vc6WuoKxYRBTQOwI/5uFpDZtZ1a5kq9Ak/
 MOPDDZpd84rqd+IvgMw5z4a5QlkvOTpScD21G3gjmtTEtyfahltyDK/5i8IaQC3YiXJCrqxE
 r7/4JMZeOYiKpE9iZMtS90t4wBgbVTqAGH1nE/ifZVAUcCtycD0f3egX9CHe45Ad4fsF3edQ
 ESa5tZAogiA4Hc/yQpnnf43a3aQ67XPOJXxS0Qptzu4vfF9h7kTKYWSrVesOU3QKYbjEAf95
 NewF9FhAlYqYrwIwnuAZ8TdXVDYt7Z3z506//sf6zoRwYIDA8RDqFGRuPMXUsoUnf/KKPrtR
 ceLcSUP/JCNiYbf1/QtW8S6Ca/4qJFXQHp0knqJPGmwuFHsarSdpvZQ9qpxD3FnuPyo64S2N
 Dfq8TAeifNp2pAmPY2PAHQ3nOmKgMG8Gn5QiORvMUGzSz8Lo31LW58NdBKbh6bci5+t/HE0H
 pnyVf5xhNC/FuQINBFl4pQoBEACr+MgxWHUP76oNNYjRiNDhaIVtnPRqxiZ9v4H5FPxJy9UD
 Bqr54rifr1E+K+yYNPt/Po43vVL2cAyfyI/LVLlhiY4yH6T1n+Di/hSkkviCaf13gczuvgz4
 KVYLwojU8+naJUsiCJw01MjO3pg9GQ+47HgsnRjCdNmmHiUQqksMIfd8k3reO9SUNlEmDDNB
 XuSzkHjE5y/R/6p8uXaVpiKPfHoULjNRWaFc3d2JGmxJpBdpYnajoz61m7XJlgwl/B5Ql/6B
 dHGaX3VHxOZsfRfugwYF9CkrPbyO5PK7yJ5vaiWre7aQ9bmCtXAomvF1q3/qRwZp77k6i9R3
 tWfXjZDOQokw0u6d6DYJ0Vkfcwheg2i/Mf/epQl7Pf846G3PgSnyVK6cRwerBl5a68w7xqVU
 4KgAh0DePjtDcbcXsKRT9D63cfyfrNE+ea4i0SVik6+N4nAj1HbzWHTk2KIxTsJXypibOKFX
 2VykltxutR1sUfZBYMkfU4PogE7NjVEU7KtuCOSAkYzIWrZNEQrxYkxHLJsWruhSYNRsqVBy
 KvY6JAsq/i5yhVd5JKKU8wIOgSwC9P6mXYRgwPyfg15GZpnw+Fpey4bCDkT5fMOaCcS+vSU1
 UaFmC4Ogzpe2BW2DOaPU5Ik99zUFNn6cRmOOXArrryjFlLT5oSOe4IposgWzdwARAQABiQIl
 BBgBCAAPBQJZeKUKAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEKOGQNwGMqM5ELoP/jj9d9gF1Al4+9bngUlYohYu
 0sxyZo9IZ7Yb7cHuJzOMqfgoP4tydP4QCuyd9Q2OHHL5AL4VFNb8SvqAxxYSPuDJTI3JZwI7
 d8JTPKwpulMSUaJE8ZH9n8A/+sdC3CAD4QafVBcCcbFe1jifHmQRdDrvHV9Es14QVAOTZhnJ
 vweENyHEIxkpLsyUUDuVypIo6y/Cws+EBCWt27BJi9GH/EOTB0wb+2ghCs/i3h8a+bi+bS7L
 FCCm/AxIqxRurh2UySn0P/2+2eZvneJ1/uTgfxnjeSlwQJ1BWzMAdAHQO1/lnbyZgEZEtUZJ
 x9d9ASekTtJjBMKJXAw7GbB2dAA/QmbA+Q+Xuamzm/1imigz6L6sOt2n/X/SSc33w8RJUyor
 SvAIoG/zU2Y76pKTgbpQqMDmkmNYFMLcAukpvC4ki3Sf086TdMgkjqtnpTkEElMSFJC8npXv
 3QnGGOIfFug/qs8z03DLPBz9VYS26jiiN7QIJVpeeEdN/LKnaz5LO+h5kNAyj44qdF2T2AiF
 HxnZnxO5JNP5uISQH3FjxxGxJkdJ8jKzZV7aT37sC+Rp0o3KNc+GXTR+GSVq87Xfuhx0LRST
 NK9ZhT0+qkiN7npFLtNtbzwqaqceq3XhafmCiw8xrtzCnlB/C4SiBr/93Ip4kihXJ0EuHSLn
 VujM7c/b4pps
Organization: Red Hat Inc,
Message-ID: <0c520470-4654-cdf2-cf4d-d7c351d25e8b@redhat.com>
Date:   Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:40:02 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/60.6.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20190724165158.6685.87228.stgit@localhost.localdomain>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT
Content-Language: en-US
Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
Precedence: bulk


On 7/24/19 12:54 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> This series provides an asynchronous means of hinting to a hypervisor
> that a guest page is no longer in use and can have the data associated
> with it dropped. To do this I have implemented functionality that allows
> for what I am referring to as page hinting
>
> The functionality for this is fairly simple. When enabled it will allocate
> statistics to track the number of hinted pages in a given free area. When
> the number of free pages exceeds this value plus a high water value,
> currently 32,
Shouldn't we configure this to a lower number such as 16?
>  it will begin performing page hinting which consists of
> pulling pages off of free list and placing them into a scatter list. The
> scatterlist is then given to the page hinting device and it will perform
> the required action to make the pages "hinted", in the case of
> virtio-balloon this results in the pages being madvised as MADV_DONTNEED
> and as such they are forced out of the guest. After this they are placed
> back on the free list, and an additional bit is added if they are not
> merged indicating that they are a hinted buddy page instead of a standard
> buddy page. The cycle then repeats with additional non-hinted pages being
> pulled until the free areas all consist of hinted pages.
>
> I am leaving a number of things hard-coded such as limiting the lowest
> order processed to PAGEBLOCK_ORDER,
Have you considered making this option configurable at the compile time?
>  and have left it up to the guest to
> determine what the limit is on how many pages it wants to allocate to
> process the hints.
It might make sense to set the number of pages to be hinted at a time from the
hypervisor.
>
> My primary testing has just been to verify the memory is being freed after
> allocation by running memhog 79g on a 80g guest and watching the total
> free memory via /proc/meminfo on the host. With this I have verified most
> of the memory is freed after each iteration. As far as performance I have
> been mainly focusing on the will-it-scale/page_fault1 test running with
> 16 vcpus. With that I have seen at most a 2% difference between the base
> kernel without these patches and the patches with virtio-balloon disabled.
> With the patches and virtio-balloon enabled with hinting the results
> largely depend on the host kernel. On a 3.10 RHEL kernel I saw up to a 2%
> drop in performance as I approached 16 threads,
I think this is acceptable.
>  however on the the lastest
> linux-next kernel I saw roughly a 4% to 5% improvement in performance for
> all tests with 8 or more threads. 
Do you mean that with your patches the will-it-scale/page_fault1 numbers were
better by 4-5% over an unmodified kernel?
> I believe the difference seen is due to
> the overhead for faulting pages back into the guest and zeroing of memory.
It may also make sense to test these patches with netperf to observe how much
performance drop it is introducing.
> Patch 4 is a bit on the large side at about 600 lines of change, however
> I really didn't see a good way to break it up since each piece feeds into
> the next. So I couldn't add the statistics by themselves as it didn't
> really make sense to add them without something that will either read or
> increment/decrement them, or add the Hinted state without something that
> would set/unset it. As such I just ended up adding the entire thing as
> one patch. It makes it a bit bigger but avoids the issues in the previous
> set where I was referencing things before they had been added.
>
> Changes from the RFC:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190530215223.13974.22445.stgit@localhost.localdomain/
> Moved aeration requested flag out of aerator and into zone->flags.
> Moved bounary out of free_area and into local variables for aeration.
> Moved aeration cycle out of interrupt and into workqueue.
> Left nr_free as total pages instead of splitting it between raw and aerated.
> Combined size and physical address values in virtio ring into one 64b value.
>
> Changes from v1:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190619222922.1231.27432.stgit@localhost.localdomain/
> Dropped "waste page treatment" in favor of "page hinting"
We may still have to try and find a better name for virtio-balloon side changes.
As "FREE_PAGE_HINT" and "PAGE_HINTING" are still confusing.
> Renamed files and functions from "aeration" to "page_hinting"
> Moved from page->lru list to scatterlist
> Replaced wait on refcnt in shutdown with RCU and cancel_delayed_work_sync
> Virtio now uses scatterlist directly instead of intermedate array
> Moved stats out of free_area, now in seperate area and pointed to from zone
> Merged patch 5 into patch 4 to improve reviewability
> Updated various code comments throughout
>
> ---
>
> Alexander Duyck (5):
>       mm: Adjust shuffle code to allow for future coalescing
>       mm: Move set/get_pcppage_migratetype to mmzone.h
>       mm: Use zone and order instead of free area in free_list manipulators
>       mm: Introduce Hinted pages
>       virtio-balloon: Add support for providing page hints to host
>
>
>  drivers/virtio/Kconfig              |    1 
>  drivers/virtio/virtio_balloon.c     |   47 ++++++
>  include/linux/mmzone.h              |  116 ++++++++------
>  include/linux/page-flags.h          |    8 +
>  include/linux/page_hinting.h        |  139 ++++++++++++++++
>  include/uapi/linux/virtio_balloon.h |    1 
>  mm/Kconfig                          |    5 +
>  mm/Makefile                         |    1 
>  mm/internal.h                       |   18 ++
>  mm/memory_hotplug.c                 |    1 
>  mm/page_alloc.c                     |  238 ++++++++++++++++++++--------
>  mm/page_hinting.c                   |  298 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  mm/shuffle.c                        |   24 ---
>  mm/shuffle.h                        |   32 ++++
>  14 files changed, 796 insertions(+), 133 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 include/linux/page_hinting.h
>  create mode 100644 mm/page_hinting.c
>
> --
-- 
Thanks
Nitesh