Received: by 2002:a25:ad19:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id y25csp9965508ybi; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:11:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzD1skHP3X8r9RLNmpA2Al3W8ayXM51MBVL283w4V6l3p90TKQOJjdk6aLiu43zUxut3Aop X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:a714:: with SMTP id w20mr87651092plq.127.1563999062861; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:11:02 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1563999062; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=i7sXCk2HyOqIhS9aWKMZtO1YGfaY0KaOOdBQHOZnFT3lTzBFZsMfKd5wXS8LEziQVt 2qXdjE/5d5bGigjhDQbxp/ZC/OEGNLHXUnDVRb8wVEWS8RlTSUPY+CnDYm3vnZRjrE48 XPQqrSq5LISSEWzNeDvSPri9xc0qTlEH4x4FODhBmRPN89+NZ3fS3SXyNNHPtvI8WF1C /GkglBUjgoXz1B1RNbE2U+Np/iVHcooi/BXNClmO15I3+jwhpv/I6w0B4cQqtUQ2t1Lz YlJvljj5gpqFAisB/L2PpK7xQudsluk9geGlgJ8lNfsQcdTF8hUEwUmQg8nX+K7qABU8 feoA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:from:subject:cc:to:message-id:date; bh=r41Ej7S1hjRV8EGHlyPQYWFZO5UYeeNAys6sTzmsZfc=; b=n4bjUu+F6M37QUD3z7K62M0fvTpOzu9U+xz2G3NsXnYyU7J0DGa4JodTXpjWdGMPxr nxDzNaQ4jGmL474xaK79YU7zUlmWjAhhWCUqNA/WFsVDzG8mCwnVfsY7pb75gZX1ZDTs PDak5C3Kov5PXfthk1zWSZSh3LCHycF2Np/HHFNKPlqaqtk97RlJ+jmC45Q1vJy2lacw Qz5OG3LzGf0c6r3cGwGqog4iYLhjxUmLJzowAC9vkcNHL3F87xvCYpjN/ycQXBKQGcp6 06g4tfJg3hmfofSzRPXqE75AEQmqN7MpQY4nzGH4+97g1HGOmdEHYXQ9YrBnOCNvY+2r bI7w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j69si13666890pgd.589.2019.07.24.13.10.48; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2405298AbfGXUJc (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:09:32 -0400 Received: from shards.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.9]:51114 "EHLO shards.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2392434AbfGXUJa (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:09:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2601:601:9f80:35cd::d71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: davem-davemloft) by shards.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB1081543073F; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20190724.130928.1854327585456756387.davem@davemloft.net> To: ebiggers@kernel.org Cc: eric.dumazet@gmail.com, dvyukov@google.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, fw@strlen.de, i.maximets@samsung.com, edumazet@google.com, dsahern@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reminder: 99 open syzbot bugs in net subsystem From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <20190724183710.GF213255@gmail.com> References: <20190724163014.GC673@sol.localdomain> <20190724.111225.2257475150626507655.davem@davemloft.net> <20190724183710.GF213255@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.12 (shards.monkeyblade.net [149.20.54.216]); Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Eric Biggers Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:37:12 -0700 > We can argue about what words to use to describe this situation, but > it doesn't change the situation itself. And we should argue about those words because it matters to humans and effects how they feel, and humans ultimately fix these bugs. So please stop with the hyperbole. Thank you.