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From:   Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
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On 2019/7/25 下午4:28, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 03:43:41PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 2019/7/25 下午1:52, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:31:35PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On 2019/7/23 下午5:26, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 04:49:01PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>> On 2019/7/23 下午4:10, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 03:53:06PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2019/7/23 下午3:23, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Really let's just use kfree_rcu. It's way cleaner: fire and forget.
>>>>>>>>>> Looks not, you need rate limit the fire as you've figured out?
>>>>>>>>> See the discussion that followed. Basically no, it's good enough
>>>>>>>>> already and is only going to be better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And in fact,
>>>>>>>>>> the synchronization is not even needed, does it help if I leave a comment to
>>>>>>>>>> explain?
>>>>>>>>> Let's try to figure it out in the mail first. I'm pretty sure the
>>>>>>>>> current logic is wrong.
>>>>>>>> Here is what the code what to achieve:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - The map was protected by RCU
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Writers are: MMU notifier invalidation callbacks, file operations (ioctls
>>>>>>>> etc), meta_prefetch (datapath)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Readers are: memory accessor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Writer are synchronized through mmu_lock. RCU is used to synchronized
>>>>>>>> between writers and readers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The synchronize_rcu() in vhost_reset_vq_maps() was used to synchronized it
>>>>>>>> with readers (memory accessors) in the path of file operations. But in this
>>>>>>>> case, vq->mutex was already held, this means it has been serialized with
>>>>>>>> memory accessor. That's why I think it could be removed safely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anything I miss here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So invalidate callbacks need to reset the map, and they do
>>>>>>> not have vq mutex. How can they do this and free
>>>>>>> the map safely? They need synchronize_rcu or kfree_rcu right?
>>>>>> Invalidation callbacks need but file operations (e.g ioctl) not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I worry somewhat that synchronize_rcu in an MMU notifier
>>>>>>> is a problem, MMU notifiers are supposed to be quick:
>>>>>> Looks not, since it can allow to be blocked and lots of driver depends on
>>>>>> this. (E.g mmu_notifier_range_blockable()).
>>>>> Right, they can block. So why don't we take a VQ mutex and be
>>>>> done with it then? No RCU tricks.
>>>> This is how I want to go with RFC and V1. But I end up with deadlock between
>>>> vq locks and some MM internal locks. So I decide to use RCU which is 100%
>>>> under the control of vhost.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>> And I guess the deadlock is because GUP is taking mmu locks which are
>>> taken on mmu notifier path, right?
>>
>> Yes, but it's not the only lock. I don't remember the details, but I can
>> confirm I meet issues with one or two other locks.
>>
>>
>>>     How about we add a seqlock and take
>>> that in invalidate callbacks?  We can then drop the VQ lock before GUP,
>>> and take it again immediately after.
>>>
>>> something like
>>> 	if (!vq_meta_mapped(vq)) {
>>> 		vq_meta_setup(&uaddrs);
>>> 		mutex_unlock(vq->mutex)
>>> 		vq_meta_map(&uaddrs);
>>
>> The problem is the vq address could be changed at this time.
>>
>>
>>> 		mutex_lock(vq->mutex)
>>>
>>> 		/* recheck both sock->private_data and seqlock count. */
>>> 		if changed - bail out
>>> 	}
>>>
>>> And also requires that VQ uaddrs is defined like this:
>>> - writers must have both vq mutex and dev mutex
>>> - readers must have either vq mutex or dev mutex
>>>
>>>
>>> That's a big change though. For now, how about switching to a per-vq SRCU?
>>> That is only a little bit more expensive than RCU, and we
>>> can use synchronize_srcu_expedited.
>>>
>> Consider we switch to use kfree_rcu(), what's the advantage of per-vq SRCU?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> I thought we established that notifiers must wait for
> all readers to finish before they mark page dirty, to
> prevent page from becoming dirty after address
> has been invalidated.
> Right?


Exactly, and that's the reason actually I use synchronize_rcu() there.

So the concern is still the possible synchronize_expedited()? Can I do 
this on through another series on top of the incoming V2?

Thanks