Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751097AbVLGObU (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:31:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751100AbVLGObU (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:31:20 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:49290 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751097AbVLGObT (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:31:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:30:56 -0500 (EST) From: Rik van Riel X-X-Sender: riel@cuia.boston.redhat.com To: Tim Bird cc: David Woodhouse , arjan@infradead.org, andrew@walrond.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario In-Reply-To: <4394D396.1020102@am.sony.com> Message-ID: References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <200512051826.06703.andrew@walrond.org> <1133817575.11280.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1133817888.9356.78.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1133819684.11280.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4394D396.1020102@am.sony.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1126 Lines: 31 On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Tim Bird wrote: > To the larger argument about supporting binary drivers, > all Arjan manages to prove with his post is that, > if handled in the worst possible way, support for > binary drivers would be a disaster. Who can disagree > with that? >From my point of view, supporting binary drivers IS the worst possible thing we could do. It is all too common that a user ends up with two binary drivers in his kernel, and both of the binary driver vendors tell the user "try without the other vendor's driver, otherwise we will not support you". In the mean time, the user and the distro are caught in-between two finger pointing binary driver vendors, with no possibility of fixing the problem the user has. 3rd party binary drivers are such a support nightmare that I wouldn't wish them on anyone. Especially not on end users... -- All Rights Reversed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/