Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751755AbVLGSzc (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:55:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751756AbVLGSzc (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:55:32 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:49043 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751755AbVLGSzb (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:55:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario From: Arjan van de Ven To: "Randy.Dunlap" Cc: Rik van Riel , Andrea Arcangeli , William Lee Irwin III , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051205121851.GC2838@holomorphy.com> <20051206011844.GO28539@opteron.random> <1133857767.2858.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:55:08 +0100 Message-Id: <1133981708.2869.54.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.0.4 on pentafluge.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address [213.93.14.173 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 1.7 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL RBL: NJABL: dialup sender did non-local SMTP [213.93.14.173 listed in combined.njabl.org] X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1038 Lines: 22 > Such lists could tell us not only which devices work (are > supported with open source drivers) but also which devices > are not supported and hence may need attention. > > There has been some discussion about OSDL attempting to do this. the biggest pitfal by having this done by a commercial entity or an entity with commercial funding is that there is a LOT of pressure to call things with binary drivers also certified/working. It has to be an entity that can resist that pressure; if OSDL can, great. But their funding is partially from sources that will try to put that pressure on I suspect... So I would almost rather have a separate "kicked off and supported by OSDL" organisation with its own charter than have OSDL do it itself. I can imagine OSDL feeling the same as well ... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/