Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030329AbVLGTxZ (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:53:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030330AbVLGTxZ (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:53:25 -0500 Received: from witte.sonytel.be ([80.88.33.193]:4789 "EHLO witte.sonytel.be") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030329AbVLGTxY (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:53:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:53:03 +0100 (CET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Arjan van de Ven cc: "Randy.Dunlap" , Rik van Riel , Andrea Arcangeli , William Lee Irwin III , Linux Kernel Development Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario In-Reply-To: <1133981708.2869.54.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Message-ID: References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051205121851.GC2838@holomorphy.com> <20051206011844.GO28539@opteron.random> <1133857767.2858.25.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1133981708.2869.54.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1838 Lines: 41 On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > Such lists could tell us not only which devices work (are > > supported with open source drivers) but also which devices > > are not supported and hence may need attention. > > > > There has been some discussion about OSDL attempting to do this. > > the biggest pitfal by having this done by a commercial entity or an > entity with commercial funding is that there is a LOT of pressure to > call things with binary drivers also certified/working. > It has to be an entity that can resist that pressure; if OSDL can, > great. But their funding is partially from sources that will try to put > that pressure on I suspect... > So I would almost rather have a separate "kicked off and supported by > OSDL" organisation with its own charter than have OSDL do it itself. I > can imagine OSDL feeling the same as well ... What about linux/Documentation/, which is maintained by us (as in `the community', not by `commercial entity that can be pressured')? At least for a `positive' lists it's not that difficult: if the driver is in the tree, just add the supported hardware to the list in linux/Documentation/. Whether we want to put a `negative' list there as well is another question. Perhaps some form of `to do' or `drivers wanted' list? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/