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Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:48:50 +0100
From: jerome lacoste <jerome.lacoste@gmail.com>
To: Felix Oxley <lkml@oxley.org>
Subject: Re: Runs with Linux (tm)
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> With a logo a PC vendor such as Dell can stick the logo on their PCs
> if and only if every component in the machine is certified.
> (Including motherboard, on-board graphics, on-boad-sound, on-board
> raid etc. etc.)
>
> This means you or I don't have to try to find out the exact machine
> specification from Dell and then individually check each part against
> the hardware database.

I completely agree with all your arguments. My point is that your
solution is a long term one. It depends on demand being there, on
hardware vendors to be educated/lobbied/pressured, on both part
vendors and part assemblers to use the logos (as a good side effect
creating the logo might enforce the existance of Linux/Free OS
specialized hardware companies).

This is a good but long term shot. It will take years before such a
framework becomes effective for the user.

For example. If I have to buy a laptop today, I will have a hard time
finding a computer fully supported under Linux using Free drivers.

Let's say that the laptop of my dreams contains a non supported wifi
driver. I already have a supported exteranl Wifi card. In that case,
I'd rather pick the tool almost good for the job that shows me as
profficient under Linux (non certified), than a fully certified laptop
but that doesn't make me as effective.

We probably need both the logo/certification and the centralized
hardware database, but the later might be effective sooner.

Jerome
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