To: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario
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From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:48:48 +0000
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On 8 Dec 2005, Helge Hafting said:
> Lucky you.  Mine doesn't.  Using 3D on it makes the machine unstable,
> and the performance is apalling too. So I'm looking for something
> else - a radeon 7000 is cheap .  . .

Backtraces? X version? X config?

(FWIW, my AGP Radeon 9250 works flawlessly as of X.org 6.8.99.901.
6.8.2 and earlier were wobbly.)

Whether performance is appalling I don't know because I don't have any
standards to measure it by, but I get 2000fps or thereabouts out of
glxgears. That's a hell of a lot better than the 64fps I got out of
my earlier mach64 :)

> And don't say that a crash during a 3D game isn't important - it is
> a two-user machine and the other user is not amused when this happens.

Agreed. If you can handle a brief possibility of deadlocking then you
can get a backtrace when X dies, which is very useful:
<http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/DebuggingTheXserver>.

-- 
`Don't confuse the shark with the remoras.' --- Rob Landley

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