Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751261AbVLIJtN (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:49:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751299AbVLIJtN (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:49:13 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.88]:25614 "EHLO anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751261AbVLIJtM (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:49:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20051205121851.GC2838@holomorphy.com> <20051206011844.GO28539@opteron.random> <43944F42.2070207@didntduck.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5FADC38A-0DA9-4D92-B2B7-A11C5BE544DC@oxley.org> Cc: Dirk Steuwer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Felix Oxley Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:49:10 +0000 To: Miles Bader X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1882 Lines: 46 On 9 Dec 2005, at 05:49, Miles Bader wrote: > > The last bit of hardware I bought, a super-cheapo NIC (for use with an > ADSL modem), prominently stated it was "linux compatible". > Morever, all > the other brands of super-cheapo NIC alongside it on the shelf did the > same thing; they all used the defacto linux logo -- the chubby > penguin -- > on the front of the box to indicate this, next to the windows logo to. > > The fine print on the side of the box said something to the effect of > "linux driver is included with OS, not in box" (whereas a floppy with > windows driver was in the box). > > I dunno, maybe there's something weird about NICs or something... > I suppose for them it's a no-brainer, since they generally know their > stuff will just work in linux, and the only cost to them is someone to > insert the logo in the box art. Also, since competition among low-end > brands like that is probably ferocious, even a little marketing > advantage > is probably worth persuing. > > [But in my experience, it's certainly not _unusual_ to see "linux > compatible" on random consumer hardware boxes these days (I live in > Tokyo > though; maybe the market's a bit different here than where you live).] Two advantages to a certified logo program: 1. To ensure that the driver actually works, continues to work and fully supports the features of the hardware. 2. To enable PC manufactures to badge their entire systems (e.g. a Dell with a Linux Compatible sticker on the box). The long term objective being to put those manufacturers who don't supply open source drivers at a disadvantage. regards, Felix - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/