Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932250AbVLIMBk (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:01:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932231AbVLIMBk (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:01:40 -0500 Received: from erik-slagter.demon.nl ([83.161.107.130]:64404 "EHLO artemis.slagter.name") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932203AbVLIMBi (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:01:38 -0500 Subject: Re: RFC: ACPI/scsi/libata integration and hotswap From: Erik Slagter To: Jens Axboe Cc: Jeff Garzik , Randy Dunlap , hch@infradead.org, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20051209114641.GH26185@suse.de> References: <20051208133945.GA21633@srcf.ucam.org> <20051208134438.GA13507@infradead.org> <1134062330.1732.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43989B00.5040503@pobox.com> <20051208133144.0f39cb37.randy_d_dunlap@linux.intel.com> <1134121522.27633.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051209103937.GE26185@suse.de> <1134125145.27633.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43996A26.8060700@pobox.com> <1134128127.27633.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20051209114641.GH26185@suse.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-p+r3uhKlAod7fvFiDl3M" Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:01:32 +0100 Message-Id: <1134129692.27633.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-3.fc4) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 5256 Lines: 90 --=-p+r3uhKlAod7fvFiDl3M Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 12:46 +0100, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09 2005, Erik Slagter wrote: > > I case this (still) isn't clear, I am addressing the attitude of "It's > > ACPI so it's not going to be used, period". >=20 > The problem seems to be that you are misunderstanding the 'attitude', > which was mainly based on the initial patch sent out which stuffs acpi > directly in everywhere. That seems to be a good trigger for curt/direct > replies. This is the post I object to: [http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=3Dlinux-scsi&m=3D113404894931377&w=3D2] >> Ok. What's the right layer to do this? The current ACPI/anything >> else glue depends on specific knowledge about the bus concerned, and >> needs callbacks registered before devices are added to that bus. >> Doing it in the sata layer would have the potential for unhappiness >> on mixed sata/scsi machines. > Don't do it at all. 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