Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964896AbVLJC5t (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:57:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964866AbVLJC5t (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:57:49 -0500 Received: from mail.dvmed.net ([216.237.124.58]:61109 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964792AbVLJC5s (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:57:48 -0500 Message-ID: <439A4422.3030808@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:57:38 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Garrett CC: Christoph Hellwig , Alan Cox , randy_d_dunlap@linux.intel.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: RFC: ACPI/scsi/libata integration and hotswap References: <20051209114246.GB16945@infradead.org> <20051209114944.GA1068@havoc.gtf.org> <20051209115235.GB25771@srcf.ucam.org> <43997171.9060105@pobox.com> <20051209121124.GA25974@srcf.ucam.org> <439975AB.5000902@pobox.com> <20051209122457.GB26070@srcf.ucam.org> <439A23E8.3080407@pobox.com> <20051210023426.GA31220@srcf.ucam.org> <439A4070.2000500@pobox.com> <20051210025004.GB31328@srcf.ucam.org> In-Reply-To: <20051210025004.GB31328@srcf.ucam.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "srv2.dvmed.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:41:52PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > >>Do you even know if this special case is applicable outside of Dell ICH5 >>boxes? And I thought your previous messages were referring to ICH6? > > > Every laptop I have access to, whether it's SATA or PATA, fires an ACPI > notification when a drive is removed from a bay. The ICH5 case is > probably somewhat special-cased, but when we move over to driving PATA > with libata it's going to be a lot more useful. If ICH6 can be managed > without resorting to ACPI, it's less necessary in the short term, but I > think PATA support is going to require it in the end anyway (especially > since we probably want to call the _GTM and _STM methods on PATA > devices) [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address [69.134.188.146 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1208 Lines: 31 Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:41:52PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > >>Do you even know if this special case is applicable outside of Dell ICH5 >>boxes? And I thought your previous messages were referring to ICH6? > > > Every laptop I have access to, whether it's SATA or PATA, fires an ACPI > notification when a drive is removed from a bay. The ICH5 case is > probably somewhat special-cased, but when we move over to driving PATA > with libata it's going to be a lot more useful. If ICH6 can be managed > without resorting to ACPI, it's less necessary in the short term, but I > think PATA support is going to require it in the end anyway (especially > since we probably want to call the _GTM and _STM methods on PATA > devices) Yes, I do agree with this WRT PATA. Randy Dunlap's ACPI stuff is particularly interesting for this, though I haven't had time to review it in depth. I'm a bit more reluctant WRT SATA. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/