Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161019AbVLJTFl (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:05:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161024AbVLJTFl (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:05:41 -0500 Received: from lug-owl.de ([195.71.106.12]:45197 "EHLO lug-owl.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161019AbVLJTFl (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:05:41 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:05:37 +0100 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: Helge Hafting Cc: "Jeff V. Merkey" , rms@gnu.org, Coywolf Qi Hunt , luke-jr@utopios.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: GNU/Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario Message-ID: <20051210190537.GI13985@lug-owl.de> Mail-Followup-To: Helge Hafting , "Jeff V. Merkey" , rms@gnu.org, Coywolf Qi Hunt , luke-jr@utopios.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <21d7e9970512051610n1244467am12adc8373c1a4473@mail.gmail.com> <20051206040820.GB26602@kroah.com> <2cd57c900512052358m5b631204i@mail.gmail.com> <200512061856.42493.luke-jr@utopios.org> <2cd57c900512061742s28f57b5eu@mail.gmail.com> <20051210051628.E9E08CF4156@tsurukikun.utopios.org> <439A7E8E.8010707@wolfmountaingroup.com> <20051210164320.GB15986@aitel.hist.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CmWxRWyFvh6D3sQF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051210164320.GB15986@aitel.hist.no> X-Operating-System: Linux mail 2.6.12.3lug-owl X-gpg-fingerprint: 250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 8399 E1BB X-gpg-key: wwwkeys.de.pgp.net X-Echelon-Enable: howto poison arsenous mail psychological biological nuclear warfare test the bombastical terror of flooding the spy listeners explosion sex drugs and rock'n'roll X-TKUeV: howto poison arsenous mail psychological biological nuclear warfare test the bombastical terror of flooding the spy listeners explosion sex drugs and rock'n'roll User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2665 Lines: 78 --CmWxRWyFvh6D3sQF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-12-10 17:43:20 +0100, Helge Hafting w= rote: > > GPL "religion" > > have evolved, with the leaders living in orgnaizations that subsist fro= m=20 > > handouts and > > donations. This movement has spawned a global attitude that has no=20 > > respect > > for IP rights, and it's extended itself to no respect for human rights,= =20 > > or any other rights > > of the indivdual. That's the legacy this has left and the ultimate= =20 > > conclusion. >=20 > Less respect for IP rights - possibly. Perhaps that's a good thing thoug= h, > some of us thinks such rights are a bit overrated. _Less_ respect? I'm sorry, no. Once I started working on free software, I really started having raising respect for what you call Intellectual Property. ...and also recognizing some special words: "patented" -- product will be extraordinary expensive and probably not any longer actively developed (like it would be if there was real competition). "special" -- product will use parts and materials that are hard to obtain, hard to repair and probably expensive, too. "Intellectual Property" means to not do the very best for the customers, but for the company. So if somebody fights for their IP to be kept secret, that's just as good as writing "I'm selfish and only want to get your money." Thanks. I try to share my IP to teaching people using free software, but also doing some limited hardware soldering etc. Lots of fun, won't create secret IP and will actually educate people to be creative instead of consuming television... MfG, JBG --=20 Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw@lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 = _ O _ "Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg = _ _ O f=C3=BCr einen Freien Staat voll Freier B=C3=BCrger" | im Internet! | i= m Irak! O O O ret =3D do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA)= ); --CmWxRWyFvh6D3sQF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDmycBHb1edYOZ4bsRAtIHAKCS6ueMoFmpe1WbOmD8Yh+ZLkZ04wCdEtR8 eS4XK/d06ymRuf1x8XKXxiI= =qswq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CmWxRWyFvh6D3sQF-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/