Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751235AbVLLLXj (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:23:39 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751237AbVLLLXj (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:23:39 -0500 Received: from embla.aitel.hist.no ([158.38.50.22]:39555 "HELO embla.aitel.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751235AbVLLLXj (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:23:39 -0500 Message-ID: <439D5E96.3030607@aitel.hist.no> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:27:18 +0100 From: Helge Hafting User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luke-Jr CC: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario References: <1133779953.9356.9.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <200512061850.20169.luke-jr@utopios.org> <4397EB7A.7030404@aitel.hist.no> <200512081130.05095.luke-jr@utopios.org> In-Reply-To: <200512081130.05095.luke-jr@utopios.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2102 Lines: 73 Luke-Jr wrote: >On Thursday 08 December 2005 08:14, you wrote: > > >>Luke-Jr wrote: >> >> >>>The ATi Radeon 9200 works fine... >>> >>> >>Lucky you. Mine doesn't. Using 3D on it makes the machine unstable, >>and the performance is apalling too. >> >> > >Hm, well I don't have DRI enabled on my primary desktop... just on a second >one dedicated to gaming. Not sure if that makes any difference... > > > >>So I'm looking for something else - a radeon 7000 is cheap . . . >> >> > >That'll outperform a 9200? ;) > > Actually yes, because something is clearly wrong. The pci 9200 SE can run tuxracer at 640x480 - not smooth but playable until it locks the machine after a few minutes. The AGP matrox G550 is better, it runs 1280x1024 tuxracer with a unknown but noticeable higher framerate. According to people I talked to before, the 9200SE is supposed to outperform this, even with a pci bus. But it is not even close and I don't bother running 3D on it any more due to the hanging. > > >>And don't say that a crash during a 3D game isn't important - >> >> > >A system crash? Worst I've ever seen was a X crash, back before I got my X >configs good. If you mean a game crash, I wouldn't know... half the time it'd >probably be my fault. ;) > > I don't mind a game crash - I can always find another game. But it will at least screw up that card so bad that I need a reboot to get a working xserver running on that display. Typically, the crash ends with a 99% cpu loop in the kernel, a blocked display, and perhaps the other xserver gets in trouble too. > > >>it is a two-user machine and the other user is not amused when this happens. >> >> > >Maybe he would be if it showed a BSOD? :p > > Nope. A windows crash isn't any "better", and they are used to the linux-level of stability anyway. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/