Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932614AbVLMTtr (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:49:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932603AbVLMTtb (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:49:31 -0500 Received: from prgy-npn2.prodigy.com ([207.115.54.38]:63309 "EHLO oddball.prodigy.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932597AbVLMTtV (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: <4395F8B4.6000208@tmr.com> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:46:44 -0500 From: Bill Davidsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050729 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Marowsky-Bree , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel References: <20051203135608.GJ31395@stusta.de> <43949541.9060700@tmr.com> <20051206132559.GV21914@marowsky-bree.de> In-Reply-To: <20051206132559.GV21914@marowsky-bree.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1668 Lines: 37 Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > On 2005-12-05T14:30:09, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > >>Actually I would be happy with the stability of this series if people >>would stop trying to take working features OUT of it! > > > Features are removed when they are no longer features, but design > irritations in a new and improved design, and usually, equivalent or > better (or at least thought to be) functionality is available still in > the big picture (which includes user-space), hopefully in a cleaner > place. > > Now, design is often a holy war, and people disagree. That's fine and to > be expected. And sometimes, the whole solution takes a while to > materialize and be implemented from the kernel up to all user-space and > even longer until it has been implemented in the brains of the admins. > This, too, is fine and expected. It's called "innovation" and > "development", sometimes iterative. Removing features because there are better solutions is one thing, although it has been done at kernel tree changes for a decade. Removing features for reasons of religion is rather a case of developers removing a useful and unbroken feature for which there is no replacement purely because someone doesn't like it, or it saves a dozen lines of code. -- -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) "The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the last possible moment - but no longer" -me - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/