Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:49:52 +0100
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
       Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, David Ranson <david@unsolicited.net>,
       Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: ipw2200 [was Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel]
Message-ID: <20051212114952.GB6533@elf.ucw.cz>
References: <20051203135608.GJ31395@stusta.de> <200512102330.31572.rob@landley.net> <20051211083737.GF5187@elf.ucw.cz> <200512110312.47142.rob@landley.net>
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Hi!

> > Why use udev from initramfs?
> 
> I don't, but I do use a script that mknods the real root's node based on 
> running "find" against /sys to locacate the appropriate device name and then 
> finding the major/minor numbers there.
> 
> This has nothing whatsoever to do with ipw2200.  It just means I'm not using 
> the in-kernel root-finder code.
> 
> > Just teach ipw2200 to load firmware late.
> 
> That's now how I'd fix this.  If you want to fix it this way, be my guest.
> 
> > Don't load firmware when ipw2200 is initialized, load it only 
> > when someone attempts to talk to your ipw2200. At that time, you
> > should have userland already.
> 
> Or I could move initramfs extraction earlier in the boot sequence and never 
> have to modify any _other_ drivers that want firmware in order to be able to 
> make them work too, rather than playing whack-a-mole teaching drivers I don't 
> care about how to hold off on wanting firmware.

Except that whack-a-mole is a right thing to do here, and that
initramfs movement is unlikely to make it into mainline.
							Pavel
-- 
Thanks, Sharp!
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